Boeing 777 shot down

I doubt they will have given satellite / movement tracking weapon access. That'd be a huge security breach for such a secretive nation

Do you? Then how do you explain 2 more Ukraian jets were taken down in recent days, one of them just yesterday? We don't know what weapons the Russians gave the rebels, all we know is they have been using them - 3 plane wrecks so far prove it.
 
Why would russia shoot a plane heading towards their border with 12,000 troops on it?

i think you're the one that needs the explanation of the sentence.

It's an arknor sentence so rubbish grammar is par for the course. In this case it's fairly obvious that arknor was talking about a border with 12,000 people on it, only because of the way he gives little regard to grammar it reads like he was talking about 12,000 people on a plane.
 
Do you? Then how do you explain 2 more Ukraian jets were taken down in recent days, one of them just yesterday? We don't know what weapons the Russians gave the rebels, all we know is they have been using them - 3 plane wrecks so far prove it.

Rebels shot down aircraft that flies lower. It requires specialist operators and a lot of training to use a weapon like that. Although i agree Rebels did shoot down aircraft at a similar time to the 777. Very hard to work out.
 
[TW]Fox;26621357 said:
Literally nothing about this incident has anything to do with the Middle East. If it were a 'false flag to destabilise the Middle East' then it is the most ridiculous one ever conceived.

no not directly, but what if the missiles (if indeed it is confirmed as shot down) were provided by a Middle East Country, would that then mean they have something to do with it??? I'm just saying
 
The rebels are Ukrainian not Russian. If the rebels shot it down that would mean it was shot down by Ukraine.

This was a passenger plane, don't know where 12,000 troops came from.

Intentionally being thick? The 12000 troops are those Russia has mobilised on its border with Ukraine.
 
Probably some "newbie douche" with his new toy using the Plane as radar check lock thing and accidentally fired.

MmmMmMmmonster kill!
 
bbc news just saying the rebels posted online about shooting down a military plane, but now that it's confirmed as a passenger plane they're denying shooting down any planes at all.
 
The Russians supplied the rebels with weapons but they were afraid to do more due to international pressure. Guess what happens when you give advanced weaponry to lunatics? They shoot at anything that moves.

But the rebels haven't got that system whereas the national guard amateurs have exactly that aa system.
 
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