Shock as 80s Russian anti-aircraft missile used to shoot down plane in ex-soviet warzone
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Shock as 80s Russian anti-aircraft missile used to shoot down plane in ex-soviet warzone
So basically everything revealed so far confirms the most likely scenario identified a few days after the awful incident; namely that pro-Russian forces shot down the air liner with a Buk missile and the Russian version of events is nothing more than a pack of lies.
Russia will obviously say the evidence was planted. Too much time has passed and the crash site was a free-for-all for too long. We'll probably never know what really happened now, even though your summary is most likely correct.
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I know it's an awful thing to say, particularly for the families of those involved, but maybe it's for the greater good to move on from this without any further incident.
Perhaps read the report a bit more carefully?
The investigators have confirmed that they have found fragments that are POSSIBLY from a Russian made missile system, they have confirmed that it was found in East Ukraine at the crash site. They have not confirmed who fired it.
The investigators have confirmed that they have found fragments that are POSSIBLY from a Russian made missile system, they have confirmed that it was found in East Ukraine at the crash site. They have not confirmed who fired it.
I just can't get over the audacity of the rebels thinking the was ever any possibility they could get away with it, I mean when you line up all the events the story unfolds as follows:
1: The rebels captured a Ukrainian air defense base (A1402) along with it's Buks, and even posted pictures of the Buks on their twitter page.
2: They used them two weeks later to shoot down a Ukrainian An-26 transport flying at 21,000ft (above the height you can hit without a SAM system), then bragged about it online.
3: Three days later MH17 crashed and they denied all involvement, claiming they barely had the ability to down helicopters.
The idea they ever expected to get away with it is as astonishing as it is worrying...
1: The rebels captured a Ukrainian air defense base (A1402) along with it's Buks, and even posted pictures of the Buks on their twitter page.
2: They used them two weeks later to shoot down a Ukrainian An-26 transport flying at 21,000ft (above the height you can hit without a SAM system), then bragged about it online.
3: Three days later MH17 crashed and they denied all involvement, claiming they barely had the ability to down helicopters.
The idea they ever expected to get away with it is as astonishing as it is worrying...
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And you honestly think anyone will be brought to trial?
Maybe it was planted.
You may laugh, but it is a possibility. Fragments of PCB 'found' near the Lockerbie crash site 'proved' Libya was behind the bombing. Its becoming clearer that those fragments were either planted or manipulated to point the finger at Libya.
What if the US had an interest in shooting it down. I heard that the Ukrainians released the intercept of the celebrstion but wasn't the metadata showing the file was produced the day prior to the plane shooting down?
At the end of the day no denying if the US had kept their noses out of "free and fair elections" then this would not be the apex of several situations. It seems crazy but i would contend Britain would be more likely to have shot it down but who can you believe? Truth is after all the first casualty in war
At the end of the day no denying if the US had kept their noses out of "free and fair elections" then this would not be the apex of several situations. It seems crazy but i would contend Britain would be more likely to have shot it down but who can you believe? Truth is after all the first casualty in war
Well Russia can say whatever they want but only idiots will treat their claims as credible.
it what way haven't they got away with it?
So the report says
"They say the parts, possibly from a Buk surface-to-air system"
"But they say they have not proved their "causal connection" with the crash"
Why don't they just say "we don't know" only people like scorza would make something of it....oh wait.
How exactly did either of those two nations shoot it down?
This thread is absurd. People are absurd!
How exactly did either of those two nations shoot it down?
This thread is absurd. People are absurd!
I saw a recent clip doing the rounds of facebook of an F4 and a poorly edited jet crash in the background, with the moon howlers claiming it was MH17.
so apparently greece or turkey were in on it as well. Best call the Dutch
Whose actual report will be out soon btw. Given the time delay of investigators being let onto the crash site by the rebels, its a miracle anything was found.
I saw a recent clip doing the rounds of facebook of an F4 and a poorly edited jet crash in the background, with the moon howlers claiming it was MH17.
so apparently greece or turkey were in on it as well. Best call the Dutch
Whose actual report will be out soon btw. Given the time delay of investigators being let onto the crash site by the rebels, its a miracle anything was found.
I'm just going to put it down to peoples lack of understanding of air space co-ordination, air defence and the general restrictions applied on aviation, period. Not everyone is a conspiracy lunatic surely.
Results are skewed due to "internet". People don't want to understand, they want a finger pointed according to their own bias. When evidence is lacking for that, they invent or resort to ambiguity in an attempt to sound plausible.
If Russia can have thousands of soldiers and armored vehicles across the border and yet still deny it/no one can actually prove it beyond the denials - it doesn't matter what evidence will be found concerning the supposed missile strike 
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