Borderlands 3

What does that have to do with anything I've said? I haven't made any mention of that at all.

Now that you've brought it up, I'll address it. As usual, I think the key point is context and motive. If all the main characters are the same sex for a reason and their sex is portrayed as a very important thing and what makes them better, I'd have an objection to that. But that's not the case in the Borderlands games, so I don't. The sex of the main characters is irrelevant. I don't recall any example of it being referenced at all within the game, let alone portrayed as being of monumental importance.

EDIT: Do you really think that calling someone "balloon ****" is equal to murdering someone by shooting them in the genitals? You've argued that twice so far, but do you really mean it?

Dude you've gone off the reservation looking for trouble, its a ******* game, relax for gods sake. Good ol' OCUK with its 'Lets argue aboubt nothing ad infinitum' crew, jesus.
 
I don't recall any example of it being referenced at all within the game, let alone portrayed as being of monumental importance.

you said it yourself- the game is cartoonish, and even if it was trying to be serious it's a videogame not a political treatise

i do feel sorry for you if that's managed to ruin your enjoyment of the game, because i can't imagine how many other great titles you'd have to avoid.
 
Wait, he's coming back with a four page essay on why its wrong to shoot someone in the **** as apposed to calling someone baloon ****.......3.2...... In a game!

I'm now more likely to reply with why it's ethically wrong to make a strawman, defeat it and pretend your strawman was someone else. As you did with your comments about the number of women in BL3, which I hadn't mentioned at all.

Also...how and why have you set the forum software to split one short post over 4 pages? Some posts must be a couple of dozen pages each for you and some threads thousands of pages. Why do that?

If you're going to argue that the content of a game doesn't matter (whatever it is and regardless of context) because it's a game, fine. I disagree, but that is a consistent position. Making nonsensical equivalences and making strawmen is a different thing entirely.

So, you see, this post:

you said it yourself- the game is cartoonish, and even if it was trying to be serious it's a videogame not a political treatise [..]

I can agree to disagree with. Yours I can't, for the reasons stated above.
 
I'm now more likely to reply with why it's ethically wrong to make a strawman, defeat it and pretend your strawman was someone else. As you did with your comments about the number of women in BL3, which I hadn't mentioned at all.

Also...how and why have you set the forum software to split one short post over 4 pages? Some posts must be a couple of dozen pages each for you and some threads thousands of pages. Why do that?

If you're going to argue that the content of a game doesn't matter (whatever it is and regardless of context) because it's a game, fine. I disagree, but that is a consistent position. Making nonsensical equivalences and making strawmen is a different thing entirely.

So, you see, this post:



I can agree to disagree with. Yours I can't, for the reasons stated above.


Oh geese, the straw man defense, with a game that has characters that ask you to shoot them in the face?....really, i give up. Its Borderlands 3, you either like it or dont, pick one and move on.
 
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Borderlands also had shooting teenage toxic hero turtles, why didn't you stop playing the game, smashed your computer, shave your head, become celibate, then run off to join PETA monastery?

Did you think that irrelevant nonsense made any sense? I'm idly curious.

Some people responded rationally to things I actually said.

Others made up irrelevant nonsense, killed some strawmen and congratulated themselves. Well done, you mighty champion of reason!
 
I don't know...in BL3 the "legendary" weapon drop rate is about 100 per hour :)

Can confirm.

Noticed it on my first (content tourism) playthrough figured "easy mode" was the culprit.

But playthrough 2 also had me decked in orange from about lv25 onwards.

I have noticed though doing some earlier playthroughs with a colleague that despite the games claims that harder enemies=better loot that we've just been getting trash drops in bl1e and bl2 (not far into bl2 atm)
 
I don't know...in BL3 the "legendary" weapon drop rate is about 100 per hour :)

Feels cheaper than BL2 though, sadly. My first 'legendary' orange was a... 'drum-roll'' ....trinket! WTF!? A 'legendary' trinket? 'Legendaries' just feel watered down v BL2. I still remember my first legendary in BL2, a truly legendary Hellfire, that dropped out of a normal loot crate! It was so ORANGE and beautiful. Legendaries in this game feel cheaper. Trinkets!
 
Met the antagonists and reached the 2nd act/area.

Now I say this is as someone who loved the hell out of Borderlands 2. Although I didn't have all the DLC, I made it to level 60 or whatever on my 3rd playthrough. I got my money's worth!

Borderlands 3 is not really reaching the same heights B2 did. I'm questioning whether I'll continue playing it or just put it on the back burner.

The antagonists are awful. Handsome Jack was sooooo much more fun and interesting. B3 is asking me to accept Philip Schofield and Holly Willoughby as the big bad. I'm just not interested in celebrity culture, real or virtual.

The gunplay is OK but again I've seen this all before (better) in B2, or so it seems right now.

I fully accept that the plot isn't the main selling point of a Borderlands game, but it's so weak in B3 that I'm just cringing through it. Also the writing is definitely worse. Not sure if they've got a new writer in but it's pretty terrible from the word go.

Maybe the game is just marketed at younger players this time around.

Wondering if I should stick with it - I'm basically asking if it gets better... atm, I can't see myself enjoying it 1/2 as much as B2. I'm basically going through the motions and hoping for a dramatic improvement. So put me out of my misery, does it get better? Act 1 was OK/mediocre but Act 2 is just cringe.

And they seriously pee'd me off by making Sanctuary 3 primarily a place to sell their DLC. Quest markers all over the shop, but they all just tell you to buy the quests from the Epic Store.
 
Can confirm.

Noticed it on my first (content tourism) playthrough figured "easy mode" was the culprit.

But playthrough 2 also had me decked in orange from about lv25 onwards.

I have noticed though doing some earlier playthroughs with a colleague that despite the games claims that harder enemies=better loot that we've just been getting trash drops in bl1e and bl2 (not far into bl2 atm)
Yeah I noticed that. I think I'm level 8 or maybe 10 (Normal Mode) and I already have full orange/legendary, in fact have also sold some orange already due to having too many.

A gun that alternates between fire and ice (Tame Nightsomething), a COV electricity pistol, a COV corrosion pistol, a grenade and a shield.

And they dropped from some really trivial enemies, like a "badass skagg" which went down super quick in a couple shots. OTOH, the one time I died so far (to a named Varkanid or w/e they're called, I think it just dropped blue loot!! The one that keeps splitting in two when you kill it).
 
i never clicked with BL3 either. i loved the previous 2 games, with number 2 being one of my all time favourites.
with 3 i just found most of the characters quite irritating, and one play through was enough.
quite a let down really.
 
Another thing that annoyed me was the need to put so many - for want of a better phrase - racial stereotypes in the game.

We're talking about a time hundreds or thousands of years from now, when we've colonised the stars, and it seems that planets are owned by corporations not countries.

So why do you have a British girl with a really strong London accent, who uses the word "slagging" as an adjective before everything. Or the Irish guy who goes on for a full 5 mins about how his life revolves around going to the pub for a pint.

It's not clever writing and it's completely jarring. London and Irish accents are a thing, on Earth. They also aren't an endless source of amusement ("Oh look dear, this one's Irish! And he drinks! How delightfully original!") Why do we have to have such stupid token ethnic actors in these things. I'd have been happier if they all had generic US accents - it wouldn't have been so immersion-shattering as the inclusion of all these sodding racial stereotypes.

The British girl is supremely irritating to listen to. Slagging this, slagging that, pick up your slagging gun, kill the slagging bad guy, here's your slagging reward.

Like I said, the writing is awful.
 
The British girl is supremely irritating to listen to. Slagging this, slagging that, pick up your slagging gun, kill the slagging bad guy, here's your slagging reward.

Oddly enough that was one of the things I found so irritating about Battlestar Galactica...all the frak this and frak that and frakking hell etc
 
Oddly enough that was one of the things I found so irritating about Battlestar Galactica...all the frak this and frak that and frakking hell etc
Either the writers think swearing is the coolest thing ever, or they think their audience does, whilst at the same time being too young to hear actual cuss words.

Either way it's ridiculous. I don't know anyone in real life that prefixes every noun with a sweary. I think it would irritate in real life too!
 
Reached level 40 and I'm getting so ****ed off with this game, now.

Dying in every single encounter - or rather, about 10-15 seconds *after* every encounter.

Because I'm not having any issue killing stuff, but every mob now inflicts lingering status effects on me. So I enter a room, kill everything in 5-10 seconds, then watch my shields tick down for 5-7 seconds, then watch my health tick down for 5-7 seconds, then die.

It's so incredibly lame. Everything in the room is long dead, but since they all have status effect weapons it's a pyric victory, always.

This is basically now playing out in every encounter. Every bloody encounter. It's like every SOB has a Maliwan weapon.

Never had this problem in Borderlands 2. This sequel is worse in almost every way. I guess they really, REALLY don't want you to play solo.
 
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