Boy Racer Image has to Go.....

233 · 18 Mar 2011 at 17:30

nowt wrong with an insignia tbh, you dont have to go for a VXR to get a fast one

you can get the 2.8 twin turbo and 4wd with elite spec rather than vxr. less shouty and a bit more business suit like. or be sensible and get a fwd 160 bhp oil burner

Fr0dders · 18 Mar 2011 at 17:30

There is a grand total of 2 Audi A4 petrols over 3L and under 2 years old on auto trader lol.

Shoei · 18 Mar 2011 at 18:36

NathWraith said:
I take it my Alfa suggestion was looked over straight away

Wrong emblem in the badge.

no_1_dave · 18 Mar 2011 at 19:38

Foxtrot26 said:
nowt wrong with an insignia tbh, you dont have to go for a VXR to get a fast one

you can get the 2.8 twin turbo and 4wd with elite spec rather than vxr. less shouty and a bit more business suit like. or be sensible and get a fwd 160 bhp oil burner

But with elite spec it is the same price as a VXR, but slower and less comfy.
Also due to the price and the fact it is a saloon it doesnt look like a boy racers car

I dont think anyone's tried racing me yet, people pull up at lights then dont bother trying and it is amazingly comfy for long journeys

NathWraith · 18 Mar 2011 at 21:00

Shoei said:
Wrong emblem in the badge.

But why!?

Fr0dders · 18 Mar 2011 at 21:10

he's being sarcastic implying we're all badge snobs.

NathWraith · 18 Mar 2011 at 21:35

MrLOL said:
he's being sarcastic implying we're all badge snobs.

Oh, failure. In my eyes alfa Romeo are just as renowned as Audi if not more prestigious and classy!

mrk · 18 Mar 2011 at 21:49

NathWraith said:
Oh, failure. In my eyes alfa Romeo are just as renowned as Audi if not more prestigious and classy!

Well they win on style points that's for sure

Shoei · 18 Mar 2011 at 22:03

NathWraith said:
Oh, failure. In my eyes alfa Romeo are just as renowned as Audi if not more prestigious and classy!

I'd pick an Alfa over most others, in fact I did. Looking for new car after getting license back, got a Mito with the TCT gearbox.
Nice in that there are at most 2 others in the area. Waits for the usual "when's it going to break down/rust etc etc.
I look out of the window and see a nice looking car as opposed to the usual box with 4 wheels. Am I mad probably, but after all crap I've been through the past 2 yrs, it's great. Put it in Dynamic & the TCT in manual, it blows away the thoughts of MS.

Cristian · 18 Mar 2011 at 22:19

MrLOL said:
This is true, i commented earlier that the 3.2 FSI engine isn't anything amazing. I had a drive when i was looking at the vectra VXR and it just doesnt feel fast.

The current shape A4 is out of budget with the bigger engines. To get a current shape A4 you'll need to drop spec and engine for something like this :

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif.../page/3/radius/1501/postcode/wf13hl?logcode=p

good god 1.8 turbo engine with 120bhp?!

[TW]Fox · 18 Mar 2011 at 22:24

Cristian said:
good god 1.8 turbo engine with 120bhp?!

It's far more cost effective to have one engine at 3 power points than it is to manufacturer 3 different engines for those three power points.

The same engine is available with more power if you wish.

Cristian · 19 Mar 2011 at 13:13

yes, but surely you can get 120bhp from an 1.8 WITHOUT the turbo?
If cost effectiveness is in mind surely dumping the turbo would be the first step you take?

it's like the old vag 1.8. 125bhp NA, 150 with turbo, 180 in later revisions and so on.

Participant · 19 Mar 2011 at 15:50

Cristian said:
yes, but surely you can get 120bhp from an 1.8 WITHOUT the turbo?
If cost effectiveness is in mind surely dumping the turbo would be the first step you take?

it's like the old vag 1.8. 125bhp NA, 150 with turbo, 180 in later revisions and so on.

Turbo sounds cool though.

DM · 19 Mar 2011 at 15:52

Get yourself a proper car, like a Jag, only real men drive Jags.

mrk · 19 Mar 2011 at 15:53

DiamondMark said:
Get yourself a proper car, like a Jag, only old men drive Jags.

Fr0dders · 19 Mar 2011 at 15:53

Cristian said:
yes, but surely you can get 120bhp from an 1.8 WITHOUT the turbo?
If cost effectiveness is in mind surely dumping the turbo would be the first step you take?

it's like the old vag 1.8. 125bhp NA, 150 with turbo, 180 in later revisions and so on.

take the 6.2 V8 in the AMG Mercs

The one in the C63 AMG is limited to 450bhp. The same engine in the E63 etc.. produces 500bhp plus.

So what did they do ? just restrict the maximum throttle in the C63 to about 70 %

So you get an engine that produces 50bhp less for 0 research and development and 5 minutes writing an different ECU that just limits maximum throttle

I suspect Audi do a similar thing. Rather than develop a separate 1.8 N/A engine, just take the 1.8T and stick an ECU restriction in restricting the throttle to give the desired power for the price point. Job done.

DM · 19 Mar 2011 at 15:59

Khaaan! said:

I resent that

DAIR · 19 Mar 2011 at 17:36

Cristian said:
yes, but surely you can get 120bhp from an 1.8 WITHOUT the turbo?
If cost effectiveness is in mind surely dumping the turbo would be the first step you take?

it's like the old vag 1.8. 125bhp NA, 150 with turbo, 180 in later revisions and so on.

Course you can.... My old Corsa SRi 1.8 came with 125bhp as standard...

Skilid · 19 Mar 2011 at 18:10

Cristian said:
yes, but surely you can get 120bhp from an 1.8 WITHOUT the turbo?
If cost effectiveness is in mind surely dumping the turbo would be the first step you take?

it's like the old vag 1.8. 125bhp NA, 150 with turbo, 180 in later revisions and so on.

Yes but I doubt you can get 170lbs/ft of torque from an NA 1.8.

PMKeates · 19 Mar 2011 at 18:56

Cripple said:
Yes but I doubt you can get 170lbs/ft of torque from an NA 1.8.

Does this impact the purchasing decision of someone looking for a car that comes with a 1.8L 125 HP engine?