Brazilian Grand Prix 2012, São Paulo - Race 20/20

Duke said:
How Alonso can claim a third World Championship in Brazil:

- By finishing first with Vettel fifth or lower
- By finishing second with Vettel eighth or lower
- By finishing third with Vettel 10th or lower
- By Massa being a good ol'chap and "accidentally" taking Vettel out
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The last one would be lolworthy.
 
Not particularly, FP1 was mainly testing the 2013 tyres and FP2 was fairly straight forward.

FP3 is on tomorrow at 1pm.
 
Glaucus said:
What is the weather forecast now? Has anyone got an hour by hour forecast. I can't remeber what website I used to use, which actually listed all the f1 tracks and had hourly weather forecast or was it two hourly.

Managed to watch p1, still can't believe its last race :(
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well, this is what BBC makes of it all: http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/3448439

it says rain will be in time for qualifying but that has been changing on and off

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yeah, i totally knew there was another page after that comment :o
 
Found another weather with better forecasts.

low 20s and just 0.2mm of rain at race. Which won't even make the track damp with that temp.

http://www.netweather.tv/index.cgi?action=f1;page=3;country=Brazil;sess=#forecast

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People really are getting a bit carried away with the weather forecast. Its a 100% chance of rain on Sunday, there's no guarantee that it will be during the race.
 
Glaucus said:
Found another weather with better forecasts.

low 20s and just 0.2mm of rain at race. Which won't even make the track damp with that temp.

http://www.netweather.tv/index.cgi?action=f1;page=3;country=Brazil;sess=#forecast

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As always I'm going to take the forecast with a pinch of salt, anything could happen by Sunday. Have you ever seen The Weather Man?

"I don't know. It's a guess, it's wind, man. Blows all over the place."

MooMoo444 said:
They could pay someone like Grosjean or Maldonado to do it, and nobody would ever suspect anything dodgy was going on.

Just a normal grand prix :D:D
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Too true :)
 
JHeaton said:
There's a rotary switch on here. My guess is that the green D+RL stands for dry plus rain light.

http://finemodelcars.com/hi-res/hi_res_store/2012/M5556 McLaren MP4-27 Full Size SW/M5556 01.JPG

The labelling on that wheel is crazy-minimal, though. Teams really do go to extremes.
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Nice pic. There doesn't look to be a separate switch just for the rain light though, so its going to be linked to an engine map, and I doubt the team would fail to notice if Hamilton was running the wrong mode. Makes me think that whatever it was, it was on deliberately, for whatever reason. Fuel consumption calculations using the wet weather engine maps maybe?

You can see what commands like "yellow G4" mean though, turn the yellow nob labeled G to number 4. I assume they try as hard as they can to stop any other teams getting any hints as to what the buttons and dials do.
 
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Skeeter said:
Nice pic. There doesn't look to be a separate switch just for the rain light though, so its going to be linked to an engine map, and I doubt the team would fail to notice if Hamilton was running the wrong mode. Makes me think that whatever it was, it was on deliberately, for whatever reason. Fuel consumption calculations using the wet weather engine maps maybe?

You can see what commands like "yellow G4" mean though, turn the yellow nob labeled G to number 4. I assume they try as hard as they can to stop any other teams getting any hints as to what the buttons and dials do.
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I'm not sure why they'd need a separate switch? If it's controlled by that four-position rotary (assuming it does what I think it does), then I can't see a need for it - you can have it active in the dry without changing anything, whilst it will be enabled for either the inter or wet setting.

McLaren's steering wheel is definitely the most secretive. If you look at the Lotus, Ferrari and Red Bull ones, things are much clearer (although there are still some odd ones). Also, in the centre of the Lotus E20 wheel is another rotary which I think must control some kind of on-screen menu as some of the options around it seem to be things you might want to have selected simultaneously. The amount of work these guys do on top of just driving at those speeds is impressive. :o

http://cdn-9.motorsport.com/static/img/mgl/1400000/1430000/1432000/1432000/1432069/s1_1.jpg

Captain Planet said:
I thought RL = Rev Limit?
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I'm not sure why that would be on that particular switch, though. I'd have thought you'd want control over revs in any situation, so it would seem a bit limiting to only have it on there, and redundant to have it in two places.
 
Any more pics of the other wheels? Find it pretty interesting trying to work some of the buttons out. :)
 
ZG002 said:
Any more pics of the other wheels? Find it pretty interesting trying to work some of the buttons out. :)
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Bear in mind some of these are pictures of the models based on current race wheels. There might be some slight differences (this image of the Ferrari wheel has radio and overtake buttons one way, the model has them the opposite way, for example) but I think they're mostly accurate. It's harder to get a good shot of real wheels in the car for obvious reasons. :p

McLaren MP4-27

Lotus E20

Red Bull RB8

Ferrari F2012

Force India VJM05

Mercedes GP W03

That Sauber wheel description says what I was thinking about that rotary switch. :)
 
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