Poll: Brazilian Grand Prix 2021, São Paulo - Race 19

[GR63]

There's that OcUK Motorsport Forum sense of grievance resurfacing again...not enough rolleyes emojis in the world

To be fair they do like to punish a lot with everyone but I think Lewis more. I have disliked F1 stewarding since watching them punish Montoya for an "aggressive" overtake on Barrichello in USA 2003, which was Ferrari-inspired and cost him a win that could have seen title go to him ultimately.. (or not)...

I'd rather stewards were less intrusive

 

[bayo000]

So when are we likely to find out? Thought by the time I get back to civilization from Yorkshire dales they made the decision

 

[Psycho Ned]

So when are we likely to find out? Thought by the time I get back to civilization from Yorkshire dales they made the decision

Well Practice 2 is in an hour so they better make their mind up soon!

 

[Deleted member 651465]

If they punt Lewis to the back of the grid then I hope Merc take an extra 3 engines just to have a bank of fresh units going in to the final 3 races.

 

[el_dazza]

I get the feeling Hamilton fans are going to be rather disappointed shortly. We all want to see a title fight but the stewards won't care about that.

 

[Irish_Tom]

If they punt Lewis to the back of the grid then I hope Merc take an extra 3 engines just to have a bank of fresh units going in to the final 3 races.

I didn’t think they could do that? I thought any new ICE would have to replace the one they took for FP1.

 

[Mr Jack]

Well Practice 2 is in an hour so they better make their mind up soon!

I appreciate the stewards have a process to go through and all, but it's bonkers that Mercedes still don't know whether they have to fit a different rear wing to Lewis' car 30 minutes before the FP2.

 

[SoliD]

Think the fact no decision has still been made means that the evidence probably swings both ways and they don't know how to punish both sides.

 

[utajoker]

Just said on fp2 that merc say the car was legal when it started quali

 

[Flibster]

So about 20-30 minutes to fit the wing, don't know if it'll be a new one or the original one....

Also all the Parc ferme regs they've fot to get through with the FIA to do it.

I think at this point, if it were me. I would have hit the "Sod it. We're fitting a new wing of the same spec"

 

[Slam62]

Why's this not in uhd?

 

[bayo000]

Just said on fp2 that merc say the car was legal when it started quali

They're not gonna say that they fitted an illegal wing on purpose are they?

 

[utajoker]

They're not gonna say that they fitted an illegal wing on purpose are they?

Just wouldn't say anything about it

 

[Deleted member 651465]

They’re allowed to change parts under parc ferme (if there’s an issue) as long as it’s a spec they’ve run in another race/practice session.

The FIA will retain the old part though.

 

[Psycho Ned]

Have to say it is a perfect little bit of drama to add to the rest of the title race!

 

[Flibster]

They’re allowed to change parts under parc ferme (if there’s an issue) as long as it’s a spec they’ve run in another race/practice session.

The FIA will retain the old part though.

In Parc ferme, a failed or broken part has to be replaced with the same spec part. If that can't be done then its referred to the stewards for penalty.

 

[Slam62]

Is it even hd? Oh it's changed now

 

[englishpremier]

Surely it’s less about the impact but more about MAx breached the rules? Same as Hamilton I doubt a MM of extra DRS would make a difference but he has still breached the rules.

As Irishtom said common sense would say no further action for the good of the sport and competition. I doubt that will happen, Lewis to the back and MAx a slap on the wrist would be my guess.

Not sure why you quoted me, as I've said Max or Lewis shouldn't/wouldn't be punished.

 

[JRS]

To be fair they do like to punish a lot with everyone but I think Lewis more. I have disliked F1 stewarding since watching them punish Montoya for an "aggressive" overtake on Barrichello in USA 2003, which was Ferrari-inspired and cost him a win that could have seen title go to him ultimately.. (or not)...

I'd rather stewards were less intrusive

You mean the 'overtake' where he basically drilled Rubens in the side, then got a penalty for doing so when the rain hit, decided to serve the penalty before the required tyre change for some bizarre reason, and compounded that mistake by putting entirely the wrong kind of wet weather tyre on?

Would that be the 'overtake'?

 

[Slam62]

So there is a 10nm load element as well which it may have passed on. Oh dear, the fia are good at tying themselves in knots.
So presumably the thing was below 85mm but needed less than 10Nm to open up. It could be said to have weakened then during qualifying.