Poll: Brazilian Grand Prix 2022, Interlagos - Race 21

Rate the São Paulo (don’t call it the Brazilian) Grand Prix out of ten


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I love how Max is a special case here. Sooooo many drivers have driven aggressively, crashed into teammates, crashed into other people - Ham has done it multiple times in recent history.
Nobody will deny other drivers are occasionally guilty of the same. But Max was well-known for it before he even got to F1. You can make a very long list of incidents from 2021 only where Max has caused collisions, or forced others off the track. Heck, just go watch the Jeddah 2021 highlights. Nobody has ever been that dangerous and escaped punishment so many times. His attitude stinks.
 
Nobody will deny other drivers are occasionally guilty of the same. But Max was well-known for it before he even got to F1. You can make a very long list of incidents from 2021 only where Max has caused collisions, or forced others off the track. Heck, just go watch the Jeddah 2021 highlights. Nobody has ever been that dangerous and escaped punishment so many times. His attitude stinks.
 
Vettel was an absolute tool when he drove for... Red Bull. Now he's one of the nicest, most liked drivers on the grid. He changed when he left... Wait for it... Red Bull. I'm noticing something here.

Perez seems nice, at the mexican gp when the crowd was booing Lewis perez was waving to them to stop was a nice touch, no doubt they will now boo Max see if perez does the same lol
 
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Vettel was an absolute tool when he drove for... Red Bull. Now he's one of the nicest, most liked drivers on the grid. He changed when he left... Wait for it... Red Bull. I'm noticing something here.
Yep, exactly my point. As others have said, product of their environment, mixed with youth.

I absolutely hated Vettel during his championship stint; now he's one of my favourite drivers on the grid.
 
Vettel was an absolute tool when he drove for... Red Bull. Now he's one of the nicest, most liked drivers on the grid. He changed when he left... Wait for it... Red Bull. I'm noticing something here.

Nah, he was a tool when he drove for Ferrari too. Hamilton was a tool plenty of times too. Racing at the front brings out the worst in drivers.
 
What I find funny is the Max defenders always have to bring Lewis into their arguments to stand up for Max. There is zero defence for his poor driving standards and attitude yesterday period. He is a disgusting person, brought up by a disgusting father in a toxic team and environment.
 
Nah, he was a tool when he drove for Ferrari too. Hamilton was a tool plenty of times too. Racing at the front brings out the worst in drivers.
I'm still amazed that Charles hasn't burnt down a motorhome or 2. There is a very clear line between aggressive and non-aggressive drivers, especially when something like the WDC is at stake.
 
Vettel was an absolute tool when he drove for... Red Bull. Now he's one of the nicest, most liked drivers on the grid. He changed when he left... Wait for it... Red Bull. I'm noticing something here.

Confirmation bias more like.

What is actually correlation is how drivers tend to behave in a title challenging car vs non-title challenging car. It's no suprise the likes of Vettel have chilled out as they age and end up racing midfield.
 
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What I find funny is the Max defenders always have to bring Lewis into their arguments to stand up for Max. There is zero defence for his poor driving standards and attitude yesterday period. He is a disgusting person, brought up by a disgusting father in a toxic team and environment.
The Lewis fans bring Lewis into the argument as if he were some sort of saint for clean driving. It's usually the Lewis fans who are the most angry at Max.

You never see Ferrari fans on here getting that upset, although they're probably so despondent from years of being let down.
 
Vettel was an absolute tool when he drove for... Red Bull. Now he's one of the nicest, most liked drivers on the grid. He changed when he left... Wait for it... Red Bull. I'm noticing something here.
Isn't it widely known around the paddock that the reason Daniel left was because he didn't like the toxicity?
 
Isn't it widely known around the paddock that the reason Daniel left was because he didn't like the toxicity?
Yeah. Vetell I also used to hate when at Redbull. Now seems fine. But then I do agree it's when you are at the top and things get desperate... Seb did silly things at Ferrari at times. I also used to detest Rossberg as he basically drove like Max on Hamilton and did the whole Monaco thing too...bit of a snake. But now when he does pundit/commentary work he seems a nice guy with fair comments.
 
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Isn't it widely known around the paddock that the reason Daniel left was because he didn't like the toxicity?
nope, he left due to the team was beginning to favour Max and he did not like it.

If anyone here was top of the top in a competitive sport, you would understand the ego's that come along with risk and success.
 
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Vettel was an absolute tool when he drove for... Red Bull. Now he's one of the nicest, most liked drivers on the grid. He changed when he left... Wait for it... Red Bull. I'm noticing something here.
Indeed. I think Max is a different breed though. Brought up through RB and in his and his father's mind he is the "chosen one". He's RB-vintage Vettel on steroids, I can't se him becoming nicer because I can't see him leaving RB.
It's usually the Lewis fans who are the most angry at Max.
lol doesn't take a genius to wonder why.. :p

Karun's run down of the penalty is good I think. Essentially Lewis could have left room on the entry to T2 but Max was over-speed so much he was always going to push Lewis off track through it. This YT comment sums it up perfectly; "Another example of max deliberately going into a corner too fast to “gain track position” with ZERO intention of actually making the corner. This was 2021 max in a nutshell"
 
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