I bet that's what Max or his team rep said "but he's only a man-child, he got triggered, and that made him angry. Have pity on the poor *********, for woe is him!"
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I bet that's what Max or his team rep said "but he's only a man-child, he got triggered, and that made him angry. Have pity on the poor *********, for woe is him!"
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It should have easily have been Max's race but that's F1 for you, anything can happen.
Completely understand the frustration, but yes it could have been handled better.
Owned up and a fair slap on the wrist by the stewards.
They likely quoted Max, rather than themselves.
Completely understand the frustration, but yes it could have been handled better.
Owned up and a fair slap on the wrist by the stewards.
They likely quoted Max, rather than themselves.
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I do notice that Jos Verstappen has been rather quiet on the matter for once. I wonder why. 
Can't praise Leclerc enough after that race. For me at least, the best qualifying lap of the season at the end of Q2 and he was genuinely best of the rest in the race. Obviously Sauber were strong this weekend, as Ericsson showed, but he certainly looks like he fits among the leaders.
It's starting to look like Kimi's decision to move to Sauber wasn't so odd after all. Going backwards of course, but it looks like they could be much higher up than people were expecting.
Can't praise Leclerc enough after that race. For me at least, the best qualifying lap of the season at the end of Q2 and he was genuinely best of the rest in the race. Obviously Sauber were strong this weekend, as Ericsson showed, but he certainly looks like he fits among the leaders.
It's starting to look like Kimi's decision to move to Sauber wasn't so odd after all. Going backwards of course, but it looks like they could be much higher up than people were expecting.
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Max has years to get his temperament under control and he is wicked fast.
He will win regardless of his current actions, and if he improves he will surely take the mantle from Lewis (in the right car!).
He will win regardless of his current actions, and if he improves he will surely take the mantle from Lewis (in the right car!).
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I am still impressed by how long the bulls stayed on those super softs, especially considering their pace throughout the stint and the overtaking that max did. That said, it sounds like Mercedes and Ferrari are seriously nursing their PU from their battles throughout the season whereas Red Bull have much newer parts. Same happened last season. Mercedes are also going to have more favorable tyres next season. Max is fast, but terribly error prone.
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It was even leaking oil visibly on the grid apparently. These cars are getting to their limit. Personally I hate all of the tyre and car management, but I guess this is modern F1.
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Even when they used 3 engines a weekend, they still ran them exactly on the limit and they still had multiple failures and attempts to avoid them. F1 has always been about tire and car management, saying this is something new is laughable. Exactly how you manage the engine and exactly how you manage tires changes with different engines and tires, but it's absolutely always been there.
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I don't remember Schumacher or Hakkinen doing much car management. Most of the time they were hammering in the lap times and right on the limit. I would say most of a race is now management.
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That's nonsense, they still would have been managing multiple components and outcomes - tyres, brakes, transmission, engine cooling, fuel etc. Flat out 100% balls to the wall racing lap after lap is a utopia that's never existed.
Management was part of racing hard and fast. Now it's become too much like not racing ie, driving slowly, not fighting for positions, not defending, etc. The idea of the tyres Pirelli were asked to make is that the races would be exciting, teams would choose to run flat out, but have to come in and make more pitstops for fresh tyres, then fight back up the field. Where it's gone wrong is that because of the design of the tracks where you can't overtake, and the reliance on aero where you can't overtake, it means that track position is king twice over. If you can't come in for fresh tyres and then overtake again, you've got to stay out here slower than ever, managing fuel, your precious few engines, and tyres. Everyone's doing it, because it's more advantageous than coming in for multiple stops, or hammering your engines to the max.
It's a fundamental flaw in the current version of F1 that all comes down to cars not being able to overtake as easily as they used to, so management is more advantageous than racing.
That would be an awful feeling to see as you've left but somehow I doubt it.
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I challenge that view. It is different today because the management of different aspects of a race and a car are not only far better understood (more is measured and so more can be managed) but they are far more visible too, both to drivers, teams and the viewing public. You're also conflating two different things - tyres are managed for the quickest strategy from start to finish, engines are managed to avoid damage and subsequent penalties.
If nobody told you that a team was managing engine power or had swapped an engine before a race, you wouldn't know. You wouldn't know if teams were running to conserve fuel as the cars going faster than them might be faster at that circuit. You can tell from a tyre condition if it is struggling but that's only one indicator - Verstappen's 30+ lap old super softs looked great yesterday compared to Hamilton's 20+ lap old softs. Heck, when Schumacher came on the scene it was always thought that drivers themselves were operating at the same consistent physical condition throughout races and didn't tire, but his superior fitness soon dispelled that myth.
If nobody told you that a team was managing engine power or had swapped an engine before a race, you wouldn't know. You wouldn't know if teams were running to conserve fuel as the cars going faster than them might be faster at that circuit. You can tell from a tyre condition if it is struggling but that's only one indicator - Verstappen's 30+ lap old super softs looked great yesterday compared to Hamilton's 20+ lap old softs. Heck, when Schumacher came on the scene it was always thought that drivers themselves were operating at the same consistent physical condition throughout races and didn't tire, but his superior fitness soon dispelled that myth.
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The late 90s to mid-00s was the time with the least management. The tyres were hard, we had refueling (so less saving) and the cars mostly reliable. People forget that the mid 00s had some of the worst racing in the history of the sport though.
The 80s was all about management, some of the most drastic in the sport (both engine and especially fuel), and the 80s is a lot of people's favourite era. It's not like it's some new-fangled thing that's singularly ruined racing.
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Well, he's used to it, to some extent!
No? I remember something in 98 or was it 99? Then Hakkinen's car failed even though he had a comfy lead.
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Spain 2001. His clutch failed on the last lap.
If he loses his **** that much when a race win is at stake, what's going to happen when things go wrong whilst he's in a tight title race?
I expect a full on hissy fit with stompy feets and screaming while rolling on the floor.
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In 1997 both McLarens suffered Mercedes engine failures while a relatively comfortable 1-2. At that point McLaren-Mercedes hadn't won a race, so it was particularly galling.