Breaking Bad Season 5 - Part I

shauncr91 said:
I like Lydia, she's interesting and I think will be a key character throughout the series.
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She gives you that sense of betrayal and uncertainty. Since Gus is gone, the show needs a "villian" and Skylar/Lydia are kinda filling that hole.

The only thing the show needs now is for Hank to find out who Walt is but I don't think that angle will come into play untill Part 2. :(

Its almost silly that Hank hasn't figured out who Walt is by now. They are dragging this on far too long IMO. Hank is the head of the D.E.A., he can smell a meth head a mile away. Its the only thing that kinda bugs me about the show.
 
There's been a few times this season where Hank has looked like maybe he's starting to put it together. Obviously there's the blatent stuff like the expensive watch and cars, I don't think Hank is necessarily overlooking those, but there's also been at least one other time where just a subtle look/response to something has really given me the impression he's started to put 2 and 2 together.

He doesn't have enough evidence for it to be anything more than a gut feeling right now, but perhaps him not wanting to believe what he might be starting to suspect is just as big an obstacle.
 
Is that this season? I can't remember the scene, just his reaction, it must be that if it is from S5. He definately had a 'waaaait a minute'...... look on his face, but then said nothing. I'm sure he's noticing more than he's letting on right now, no doubt that will be for the other half of the series though :(.
 
wedgie said:
Is that this season? I can't remember the scene, just his reaction, it must be that if it is from S5. He definately had a 'waaaait a minute'...... look on his face, but then said nothing. I'm sure he's noticing more than he's letting on right now, no doubt that will be for the other half of the series though :(.
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Hank shows Walt & Jr the video in Season 4 episode 4 :)

In fact, here's the whole song :D

 
wedgie said:
[...] He doesn't have enough evidence for it to be anything more than a gut feeling right now, but perhaps him not wanting to believe what he might be starting to suspect is just as big an obstacle.
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I don't even think he's got much to justify a gut feeling.

There really has been very little to suggest to Hank that a long-standing, thoroughly decent and law-abiding family member is actually responsible for Fring-level meth shifting.

Remember, as viewers we're biased with more viewpoints and knowledge than one character would have.
 
simisker said:
I don't even think he's got much to justify a gut feeling.

There really has been very little to suggest to Hank that a long-standing, thoroughly decent and law-abiding family member is actually responsible for Fring-level meth shifting.

Remember, as viewers we're biased with more viewpoints and knowledge than one character would have.
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I dunno, I mean it could take him by complete shock, but if they end up playing it like he's suspected it in the back of his head for a while, I think there's enough gone on for that to be believable.

The lab equipment going missing from Walt's school, the initials W.W. on Gale's notepad, the fallouts with Skyler, the flash watch/cars (there's probably more too, my memory on these things is terrible as displayed above :p) Hank is aware of all of these things, they are small things, stuff that on their own is literally nothing, even added all together there's not enough to strongly suggest the truth, but just maybe enough to give a cop a gut feeling.

Could go either way though no doubt, totally clueless probably is just as likely.
 
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Robert1986 said:
She gives you that sense of betrayal and uncertainty. Since Gus is gone, the show needs a "villian" and Skylar/Lydia are kinda filling that hole.

The only thing the show needs now is for Hank to find out who Walt is but I don't think that angle will come into play untill Part 2. :(

Its almost silly that Hank hasn't figured out who Walt is by now. They are dragging this on far too long IMO. Hank is the head of the D.E.A., he can smell a meth head a mile away. Its the only thing that kinda bugs me about the show.
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He has no reason to think Walt is anything other than a former teacher. He's covered his tracks very well. As well as a calculating genius would, really.

Remember he might have pieces of a puzzle but he doesn't have a hint of who the puzzle belongs to. Nothing leads to Walt. Not yet.

The old adage applies in Walt's case, eh? Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer.
 
My first reaction to that episode is: WHOAH.

wedgie said:
I dunno, I mean it could take him by complete shock, but if they end up playing it like he's suspected it in the back of his head for a while, I think there's enough gone on for that to be believable.

The lab equipment going missing from Walt's school, the initials W.W. on Gale's notepad, the fallouts with Skyler, the flash watch/cars (there's probably more too, my memory on these things is terrible as displayed above :p) Hank is aware of all of these things, they are small things, stuff that on their own is literally nothing, even added all together there's not enough to strongly suggest the truth, but just maybe enough to give a cop a gut feeling.

Could go either way though no doubt, totally clueless probably is just as likely.
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The trouble is, we've seen so many films and TV series now that we're used to "Hollywood convenience", where the evil head of the galactic oppression whom you fight hand-to-hand just so happens to be your father, or your main character just so happens to keep needing to disappear whenever that masked superhero makes his appearance. We forget that, in the real world, there are thousands, or millions of people in any populated area, and just because we don't see them on screen, doesn't mean they don't exist. In reality we'd have almost no way of knowing that Bruce Wayne was Batman, but it always seems so obvious on screen.

There are so many possible reasons for Walt and Skyler's behaviour that three's still no way Hank would suspect him of being a meth cook. I mean, Walt's public demeanour is still that of an everyday, middle-of-the-road, slightly nervous middle-aged man. I know plenty of people like that, and I don't think any of them are drug kingpins either.

Also, my predictions for the upcoming episodes:

Walt Jr. will find out at some point. I think there HAS to be a scene where he talks to his dad, face-to-face. That will be the point at which it will finally become obvious that Walt isn't doing this "for his family," but for himself. As he always has done.

Also, I wonder if the idea that Walt has to die (come on, we're all thinking it) for this series to truly feel like it's ended, will actually make it too obvious a choice for them to go with? I'm not sure there's any other way for it to go that I'll be satisfied with, as I reckon a still living Walt would simply want to cook again, no matter what. It feels like his death is the only natural conclusion to this story, but they do love a good twist on this show...
 
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Weebull said:
The trouble is, we've seen so many films and TV series now that we're used to "Hollywood convenience", where the evil head of the galactic oppression whom you fight hand-to-hand just so happens to be your father, or your main character just so happens to keep needing to disappear whenever that masked superhero makes his appearance. We forget that, in the real world, there are thousands, or millions of people in any populated area, and just because we don't see them on screen, doesn't mean they don't exist. In reality we'd have almost no way of knowing that Bruce Wayne was Batman, but it always seems so obvious on screen.

There are so many possible reasons for Walt and Skyler's behaviour that three's still no way Hank would suspect him of being a meth cook. I mean, Walt's public demeanour is still that of an everyday, middle-of-the-road, slightly nervous middle-aged man. I know plenty of people like that, and I don't think any of them are drug kingpins either.
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I agree totally, I'm not saying that Hank knows, or even that he should know. Maybe when the reveal does happen, only then will Hank look back and realise those little things were signs, the lab equipment, the initials, the cars, the problems with Sklyer (we're not just talking about a little squabble here, she tried to drown herself infront of him then effectively banished her own kids from their home) the very fact that Walt would actually be capable of cooking.

We'll have to see how it plays out, and maybe it will just be a bolt from the blue, it most likely will be. What I'm saying is if they try to play it like he's had suspicions for a while, I think more than enough has happened for that to not be truly unbelievable. I wish I could remember when that scene was that I refer to above, that was the first time I got the impression the penny might be starting to drop. Was from one of the first few episodes of this series, 1 or 2 I think, certainly no later than 3.
 
wedgie said:
I wish I could remember when that scene was that I refer to above, that was the first time I got the impression the penny might be starting to drop. Was from one of the first few episodes of this series, 1 or 2 I think, certainly no later than 3.
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... Hank was talking to his boss, who was just about to leave (due to his friendship with Gus).

He gives a little speech about "it happening right under my nose", or words to that effect, and we see Hank having a little ponder.



And as for the above post: That is some epic editing :D
 
Duff-Man said:
... Hank was talking to his boss, who was just about to leave (due to his friendship with Gus).

He gives a little speech about "it happening right under my nose", or words to that effect, and we see Hank having a little ponder.
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Thank you Sir, that's the one :).
 
Hank will either have known all along or it will be a 'Usual Suspects Agent Kujan staring at the notice board drinking his coffee' moment....

(OT: Watched Usual Suspects again the other day. Verbal smiles at one stage during the interrogation - how did I miss that?)
 
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