Brexit thread - what happens next

VincentHanna · 27 Jun 2016 at 12:38

Bonjour said:
I think it's fair to say the referendum has emboldened the far right and, in their eyes at least, legitimised their views.

There are at least two anecdotes from people on these very forums of brazen racism not experienced in decades.

It makes me sad.

I count 3.

But according to some they should grow up and stop whinging.

Rroff · 27 Jun 2016 at 12:39

Bonjour said:
I think it's fair to say the referendum has emboldened the far right and, in their eyes at least, legitimised their views.

There are at least two anecdotes from people on these very forums of brazen racism not experienced in decades.

It makes me sad.

Definitely does seem to have embolden some who'd normally keep their racist views to themselves - couple of middle eastern looking types walked past the pub yesterday and a group at one table were shouting "go home" at them - felt quite ashamed.

Bonjour · 27 Jun 2016 at 12:39

VincentHanna said:
I count 3.

But according to some they should grow up and stop whinging.

I find that equally sad.

We've been sent back 30 years.

Roar87 · 27 Jun 2016 at 12:39

Evangelion said:
The point is that this is not mere 'casual racism', it's violent in-your-face racism and the perpetrators are citing the Brexit as justification.

This has been explained several times already.

Yeah and none of them have reported it to the Police. They're using it on an Internet forum to score a few points against the Leave campaign and Democracy

do_ron_ron · 27 Jun 2016 at 12:40

anticonscience said:
Well this is certainly something:

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-%2f%2fEP%2f%2fNONSGML%2bMOTION%2bB8-2016-0838%2b0%2bDOC%2bPDF%2bV0%2f%2fEN

Yup. As that video with the Professor from Liverpool said, the two years are just the removal. Any new arrangement will have to be negotiated from there and will probably take at least ten years.

TwsT · 27 Jun 2016 at 12:40

Roar87 said:
I just don't see the point of citing anecdotes about casual racism, there was racism before the referendum as well, dozens of videos. These people need punishing under law, not used to make a cheap political point.

it's not anecdotal or casual though is it?

what part of **** off back home or get out of our country is casual?

Casual racism is referring to the local shop that is ran by a pakistani or indian chap as the **** shop.

Casual racism is making jokes.

as soon as it becomes aggressive and steps up to being verbal or physical abuse it is not casual.

Just becuase it always existed doesn't mean we should not be informed that it's happening.... And I agree it should all be punished.

Six6siX · 27 Jun 2016 at 12:40

Roar87 said:
Yeah and none of them have reported it to the Police. They're using it on an Internet forum to score a few points against the Leave campaign and Democracy

I didn't realise posting on social media and creating reporting it to the police were mutually exclusive events

wildman · 27 Jun 2016 at 12:41

Roar87 said:
Yeah and none of them have reported it to the Police. They're using it on an Internet forum to score a few points against the Leave campaign and Democracy

which means it didn't happen right.................

there's that blind eye coming out again.

Steedie · 27 Jun 2016 at 12:41

Quote from the former Governor of the Bank of England

"I don't think people should be particularly worried - markets move up, markets move down. We don't yet know where they will find their level and the whole aspect of volatility is that there is a trial and error process going on before markets discover what the right level of stock markets and exchange rates actually area. What we need is a bit of calm now, there's no reason for any of us to panic."

VincentHanna · 27 Jun 2016 at 12:42

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36634786 - 'Go back home' - Bitter backlash post EU referendum

antijoke · 27 Jun 2016 at 12:42

Germany rules out informal Brexit talks before article 50 is triggered, well there goes that idea.

Source

Roar87 · 27 Jun 2016 at 12:43

wildman said:
which means it didn't happen right.................

there's that blind eye coming out again.

Bore off. I never said it didn't happen.

FYI I would've 100% been the guy in the crowd to stick up for you, as I always do in situations like that.

deuse · 27 Jun 2016 at 12:43

Evangelion said:
The point is that this is not mere 'casual racism', it's violent in-your-face racism and the perpetrators are citing the Brexit as justification.

This has been explained several times already.

They still do this in Australia where you live?
How come you never say nothing about the masked remain lot attacking people?
But your ex PM says
"Ex-Australia PM John Howard praises UK Brexit decision"

wildman · 27 Jun 2016 at 12:44

VincentHanna said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36634786 - 'Go back home' - Bitter backlash post EU referendum

project fear tbh, it's just casual racism that this country always had right ? right.................... ???

izzop · 27 Jun 2016 at 12:44

It appears we don't have much of a shadow cabinet left, they're dropping like flies.

One thing that's componding the whole aftermath, is the political fallout that's currently happening.

Uther · 27 Jun 2016 at 12:44

Caged said:
I never thought Cameron could come out of this looking good but resigning on the 24th without invoking Article 50 was a masterstroke.

Dave 'Brits don't quit' Cameron?
Righto.

TwsT · 27 Jun 2016 at 12:45

deuse said:
They still do this in Australia where you live?
How come you never say nothing about the masked remain lot attacking people?
But your ex PM says
"Ex-Australia PM John Howard praises UK Brexit decision"

john howard is a well known outspoken racist...... He even denied Australia has a racism problem....

wildman · 27 Jun 2016 at 12:45

Roar87 said:
Bore off. I never said it didn't happen.

FYI I would've 100% been the guy in the crowd to stick up for you, as I always do in situations like that.

you effectively did by citing that it's only casual racism, you clearly do not know what casual racism is versus in your face bigoted hatred for people that are different.

do_ron_ron · 27 Jun 2016 at 12:46

Mr Jack said:
There will be people in parliament who are looking for means to do just that. Article 50 has not been triggered, the referendum has no legally binding effect, and there is widespread support for the EU in parliament. People will be looking at ways to avoid the exit, without bringing down the democratic structures of the UK and it's possible they may find one.

Personally, I think anything short of a full exit from the EU - at least in the short term - would be a big mistake for the country. Yes, it will do huge damage to our economy, our standing in the world, and our political influence for all the reasons I've spent months arguing but ignoring the result of the referendum would also do huge damage to the politics of the UK and may even have more damaging impacts in the longer term. The EU is important to our nation; democracy is more important.

So wrecking the country is OK as long as we continue with this non binding result? Sounds a bit like a death wish.

The Running Man · 27 Jun 2016 at 12:46

At what point to people accept that they were not invited here but came anyway en mass . There are millions of people that have not just been tolerated but massively pandered to by the left. It has gone on for so long and been thrust upon people who didn't want it. of course you are now seeing some backlashm it's been repressed for 20 years.