Brexit thread - what happens next

Phonesis · 27 Jun 2016 at 17:01

Interesting. Summed up well here too: http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/23/eu-referendum-legally-binding-brexit-lisbon-cameron-sovereign-parliament

Seems to be more a case of it being political suicide if the decision is not respected. But Cameron has already resigned! So guess it really does all bog down to who becomes next PM and how pro Leave they truly are.

Gilly · 27 Jun 2016 at 17:02

Phonesis said:
Interesting. Summed up well here too: http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/23/eu-referendum-legally-binding-brexit-lisbon-cameron-sovereign-parliament

Seems to be more a case of it being political suicide if the decision is not respected. But Cameron has already resigned! So guess it really does all bog down to who becomes next PM and how pro Leave they truly are.

Exactly that

Uther · 27 Jun 2016 at 17:02

Gilly said:
If anything I'm more convinced now than before that it's not set in stone.

If Boris remains in hiding or does turn out to have no plan as to what to do, who is the pro-leave leader they're going to look to?

They need someone to lead on it or it won't happen.

Boris is hardly playing the conquering hero is he, definitely conspicuous by his absence, which is a bit unsettling.

Akagi · 27 Jun 2016 at 17:02

If there is a general election it will be very interesting... Lots of tactical voting... Could easily go pear shaped...

arctine · 27 Jun 2016 at 17:03

Phonesis said:
Interesting. Summed up well here too: http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/23/eu-referendum-legally-binding-brexit-lisbon-cameron-sovereign-parliament

Seems to be more a case of it being political suicide if the decision is not respected. But Cameron has already resigned! So guess it really does all bog down to who becomes next PM and how pro Leave they truly are.

It's not just how pro leave they truly are, it's also the fact that first they need the support of the conservative party.

grudas · 27 Jun 2016 at 17:04

I'm sitting here and thinking... WOW this is a massive mess!

tbh I think the country would've been better off without this referendum.

Phonesis · 27 Jun 2016 at 17:04

Gilly said:
Exactly that

My gut feel on this has changed now. I don't think article 50 is ever going to be invoked.

Akagi · 27 Jun 2016 at 17:05

grudas said:
tbh I think the country would've been better off without this referendum.

Duh!

Tuppy_Glossop · 27 Jun 2016 at 17:06

grudas said:
I'm sitting here and thinking... WOW this is a massive mess!

tbh I think the country would've been better off without this referendum.

Yet all elected MPs voted in favour of holding it by 6:1. They are a funny lot.

DB_SamX · 27 Jun 2016 at 17:06

Gilly said:
If anything I'm more convinced now than before that it's not set in stone.

If Boris remains in hiding or does turn out to have no plan as to what to do, who is the pro-leave leader they're going to look to?

They need someone to lead on it or it won't happen.

+1

Gilly · 27 Jun 2016 at 17:06

grudas said:
I'm sitting here and thinking... WOW this is a massive mess!

tbh I think the country would've been better off without this referendum.

I fully agree. That said, the Cons were elected on there being one, so we really chose that too if you want to get down to the nitty-gritty.

Phonesis said:
My gut feel on this has changed now. I don't think article 50 is ever going to be invoked.

I don't either. Yet, it may well.

itchy · 27 Jun 2016 at 17:07

I said I was not going to post again but...... :rolleyes:

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/683739/EU-referendum-German-French-European-superstate-Brexit

http://www.thenews.pl/1/10/Artykul/258994,New-EU-superstate-plan’-by-France-Germany-report

http://uatoday.tv/politics/european-superstate-instead-of-e-u-680410.html

^^^^This is why I voted out.

Tosno · 27 Jun 2016 at 17:07

BREAKING NEWS!

If the England game ends 5-4 to Iceland. The match will be replayed at a later date for a better result for England.

arctine · 27 Jun 2016 at 17:08

Tosno said:
BREAKING NEWS!

If the England game ends 5-4 to Iceland. The match will be replayed at a later date for a better result for England.

You are hilarious and original.

deuse · 27 Jun 2016 at 17:08

Phonesis said:
My gut feel on this has changed now. I don't think article 50 is ever going to be invoked.

It will and the reason is that a party that comes along and say "we will do it the day we get voted in" End Game

Mauller · 27 Jun 2016 at 17:09

grudas said:
I'm sitting here and thinking... WOW this is a massive mess!

tbh I think the country would've been better off without this referendum.

I think politicians, the country and the world needed it as a wake-up call.

If you think the world was stable before, then why would a vote that has not had any kind of legislation passed to see it through caused such chaos across the world?

The progress from the 2009 recession was never stable and always balanced on a knife edge, you can see by what has been happening in the markets around the world.

esoteric · 27 Jun 2016 at 17:09

Heard on the radio driving home that, David Cameron has basically said deal with it, we are coming out of the EU.

Probably won't stop the crying for another referendum though.

Tosno · 27 Jun 2016 at 17:09

arctine said:
You are hilarious and original.

Thank you.

deuse · 27 Jun 2016 at 17:09

Tosno said:
BREAKING NEWS!

If the England game ends 5-4 to Iceland. The match will be replayed at a later date for a better result for England.

dl8860 · 27 Jun 2016 at 17:09

I just watched PMQs for far too long at work, you can tell they are all intelligent people, and they are politically forced to pay lip service to the democratic vote and say it is sacred, when they all know that really the public are a bunch of ******* morons and this is economic suicide.

It needs someone heroic to make an incredible speech about how MPs represent the electorate but actually are intelligent people themselves, how the future of the Union of the UK being at risk outweights a 4% majority on this. Then put themselves up for new Tory leader on the platform of defying the referendum, if you then get a few brave MPs start to back it it could take off.