Brexit thread - what happens next

Sagalout · 26 Jun 2016 at 02:09

Rosbif said:
Yeah yeah this is the same Nissan that threatened to pull all of its investment out of the UK if it didn't join the Euro. Heard it all before.

Maybe you missed that they now have a huge shiny new plant in Spain?

Mynight · 26 Jun 2016 at 02:09

Closing said:
It is exactly that until any of it is proven to be true.

What does fear mongering achieve post vote though?

It's pretty pointless as what's done is done. As such is it not worth considering there may be something to it?

Cern · 26 Jun 2016 at 02:09

Wrinkly said:
As a tipsy Scotsman thinking out of the box, A simple solution would be to give both England and Wales a true Brexit.

In it's simplest form, allow both England(with the exception of London) and Wales to exit Britain. Britain which would then be made up of Scotland, Northern Ireland and London would continue to remain a member of the EU. Scotland would move closer to independence by gaining a border while sharing power with London and Northern Ireland. Both England and Wales would proceed however they wished free of the EU while we all continue to share the Pound as before allowing internal trade across the United Kingdom to continue.

Another top up of Glenmorangie then bed.

Well count me in for your New Calelondinia or whatever it'll be called.

It might be slightly problematic travelling between parts of this new country though, having to navigate safely across that angry realm called Little Engerwales, or whatever they decide to call it

Deleted member 2277 · 26 Jun 2016 at 02:09

Wrinkly said:
As a tipsy Scotsman thinking out of the box, A simple solution would be to give both England and Wales a true Brexit.

In it's simplest form, allow both England(with the exception of London) and Wales to exit Britain. Britain which would then be made up of Scotland, Northern Ireland and London would continue to remain a member of the EU. Scotland would move closer to independence by gaining a border while sharing power with London and Northern Ireland. Both England and Wales would proceed however they wished free of the EU while we all continue to share the Pound as before allowing internal trade across the United Kingdom to continue.

Another top up of Glenmorangie then bed.

I think you should go to bed now before you start talking nonsense......

datalol-jack · 26 Jun 2016 at 02:10

Domo said:
London is absolutely essential to the economy. All those Brexiters who think they've got one over on the establishment are in for a bucket load of self-inflicted pain in the coming years once all that vomit inducing patriotism will has worn off. The financial industry is in turmoil. Maybe they're dreaming of newly energised industries which have previously failed or are in a state of failing now. Don't need to name any.

Nevermind - got to be positive, not allowed to complain. Think of all the fish and chip shops, ice cream parlours and skittle alleys you can fit into the City of London. We can hang loads of bunting too and play hop scotch all day. We can make Britain great again.

Hey, at least Rhyl and Hartlepool will boom now due to all the wonderful holidays people will take there now, as opposed to a cheap hotel in Spain.

pooley · 26 Jun 2016 at 02:11

datalol-jack said:
Hey, at least Rhyl and Hartlepool will boom now due to all the wonderful holidays people will take there now, as opposed to a cheap hotel in Spain.

yup life goes on...

McPhee · 26 Jun 2016 at 02:12

Wrinkly said:
As a tipsy Scotsman thinking out of the box, A simple solution would be to give both England and Wales a true Brexit.

In it's simplest form, allow both England(with the exception of London) and Wales to exit Britain. Britain which would then be made up of Scotland, Northern Ireland and London would continue to remain a member of the EU. Scotland would move closer to independence by gaining a border while sharing power with London and Northern Ireland. Both England and Wales would proceed however they wished free of the EU while we all continue to share the Pound as before allowing internal trade across the United Kingdom to continue.

Another top up of Glenmorangie then bed.

That would make 'New Britain' one hell of a wealthy state

I'm not sure how well England and Wales would survive though...

Mynight · 26 Jun 2016 at 02:12

datalol-jack said:
Hey, at least Rhyl and Hartlepool will boom now due to all the wonderful holidays people will take there now, as opposed to a cheap hotel in Spain.

The situation isn't that dire yet

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Sagalout · 26 Jun 2016 at 02:13

Cern said:
Well count me in for your New Calelondinia or whatever it'll be called.

It might be slightly problematic travelling between parts of this new country though, having to navigate safely across that angry realm called Little Engerwales, or whatever they decide to call it

You can count our little triangle of Harrogate, Leeds and York in too - we can provide a rest stop between London and Scotland...we're even on the train line!

neoboy · 26 Jun 2016 at 02:14

satchef1 said:
I'm not sure how well England and Wales would survive though...

EU Development Fund...oh wait

Deleted member 2277 · 26 Jun 2016 at 02:14

Domo said:
London is absolutely essential to the economy. All those Brexiters who think they've got one over on the establishment are in for a bucket load of self-inflicted pain in the coming years once all that vomit inducing patriotism will has worn off. The financial industry is in turmoil. Maybe they're dreaming of newly energised industries which have previously failed or are in a state of failing now. Don't need to name any.

Nevermind - got to be positive, not allowed to complain. Think of all the fish and chip shops, ice cream parlours and skittle alleys you can fit into the City of London. We can hang loads of bunting too and play hop scotch all day. We can make Britain great again.

Yes, really essential until they nearly bankrupt us.

datalol-jack · 26 Jun 2016 at 02:15

Mynight said:
The situation isn't that dire yet .

Project Cassandra must continue.

datalol-jack · 26 Jun 2016 at 02:16

Deleted member 2277 said:
Yes, really essential until they nearly bankrupt us.

Tell me what will replace them, and whether you're in that industry. It's not as simple as telling the financial sector to do one, I'm afraid.

BubbySoup · 26 Jun 2016 at 02:16

Sagalout said:
Now, if someone wants to explain how at least 2 years of uncertainty is going to lead to anything other than economic contraction I'm all ears.

Still, at least we 'got our country back'...whatever the **** that means.

Not everyone will have made their decision based on economics. Perhaps people didn't like what the EU has become or what it will eventually turn into. Perhaps they felt they wanted their government to have more control over their affairs - even if this is not as clear cut as many thought.

Oh, and to top it all off we're more than likely going to have a wild blond haired man-child as our Prime Minister.

Yes, this is worrying

Rosbif · 26 Jun 2016 at 02:18

Sagalout said:
Maybe you missed that they now have a huge shiny new plant in Spain?

I didn't know that. I must have overlooked that news. I was probably too busy keenly keeping my eye on them in 2015 when they expanded their Sunderland plant I guess.

do_ron_ron · 26 Jun 2016 at 02:18

Closing said:
Sagalout like most of the remain lot you think this is all about immigration and paying the EU a fee, this is about democracy.

Free from the EU we can start to be a true democracy again rather than a puppet state of the increasingly federated EU and it's few appointed (not democratically elected) leaders.

We have an opt out of 'increasingly federated EU' already. All decisions in the EU are taken by directly elected members or people appointed by the governments of the countries. If you want to look at undemocratic elected look at OUR House of Lords.

And we all knew there would be a few years of turmoil upon leaving, I don't understand why everybody is up in arms about it, it doesn't take a masters to work out this was going to happen.

That few years is going to be at least 10 years to get treaties in place before you can start and you will have had the costs of those ten years and it's effects on people's lives.

The gamble is that after the dust has settled we are better off, I voted leave and so obviously I would bet that in due course we will be.

It is a huge leap in the dark and as is now becoming clear NOBODY actually thought it would happen so no plans were put in place in the event of a leave.

Hotwired · 26 Jun 2016 at 02:19

izzop said:
So, apart rom my holidays, or food purchases?!

A government back in '92 that decided to hand over more power to a unelected elite than was thought possible. Regardless if you voted for that government, you certainly didn't vote for that.

A decision such as that required a vote.

No, that is not damaging your life. You certainly never voted for any civil servants either.

What is the EU doing right now that is causing you a tangible problem.

Are you losing money?

What EU decisions are affecting your daily life?

Or is there no tangible problem and you simply don't like the idea of the EU.

StriderX · 26 Jun 2016 at 02:20

Can someone explain why our 2,5 & 10 year bonds rallied?

Domo · 26 Jun 2016 at 02:21

Deleted member 2277 said:
Yes, really essential until they nearly bankrupt us.

The City of London’s contribution to the UK's national income (or gross Value added, GVA) is estimated at is estimated at £45bn in 2014, or 3%, while London accounts for £334bn or 22% of the UK's GVA.

Financial services represent £26bn or 57.5% of the City's total income (or GVA) 17.1% of London's economy, and the financial services sector in the UK accounts for 7.5% of the total national income of Great Britain. Taken together with professional services, financial services contributed £180bn to the UK economy in 2013, accounting for 11.8% of total output.

Src: https://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/bus...formation/statistics/Pages/research-faqs.aspx

w1lliam · 26 Jun 2016 at 02:21

datalol-jack said:
Hey, at least Rhyl and Hartlepool will boom now due to all the wonderful holidays people will take there now, as opposed to a cheap hotel in Spain.

Nope.

Still rather holiday in the continent.