JSF when it becomes available in 2020
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JSF when it becomes available in 2020
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not read up much on this fighter plane , who will own it and who makes it?
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The Royal Navy / RAF will own the planes. They are being made by Lockhead Martin and BAE Systems.
Think of it as a F22 lite.
if this is all true i would think it very unlikely that either carrier will ever put to sea equipped with a British only contingent, the lack of planes until 2020 and the reversion to CATOBAR sounds very much like we plan to share these with other nations, I'm guessing the French will be heavily involved.
It seems a shame but if the government think we can live without a carier threat for many years why do we need one at all?
It seems a shame but if the government think we can live without a carier threat for many years why do we need one at all?
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i would rather have one than not
It is a shame, but at the same time we can't afford anything else right now thanks to Labour & MOD wasting money
If they were small carriers i would see the point in us going STOVL, but like i said these are super carriers lets get the CATOBAR back, then we can buy in radar aircraft and maybe even some electronic warfare aircraft, hell get some refuelling ones as well.
Aircraft carriers are like hospitals, you don't need one every day but they are a life saver when you do need them.
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yeah imagine we had another falklands on our hands? , did it not slightly kick off recently over oil?
There is a belief that the waters around the Falklands could contain as much oil and gas as the north sea, so yeah it could get a bit juicy.
This thread is obviousy silly, but this is such a silly statement in nature that I couldn't help but be very amused
Personally I think if you factor in our knowledge of taking the Birmingham Toll road, it will most likely be 3:7.
I think you misunderstand me, I am a huge advocate of us maintaining our carriers. What I'm saying is the government think that we can have a 5+ year gap now with no operational jets at sea without significant risk to our country, dependencies or role in world politics then why do we suddenly need them in 2020? It seems like a half baked decision to me.
Something they need reminding of far more often.
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Odd that the BBC imply that making a carrier non STOVL will save money as if it's cheaper to build in the catapult and arrestor. Navy should now scrap the vertical version of the F-35 and build both carriers with catapult.
Looks to be more like almost 10 years without a 'working' carrier, unless we borrow some French jets. And pilots to fly them.
Ark Royal scrapped almost now. If we're lucky, JSF will be operational by 2010, if it overruns even 20% of what the Eurofighter (2000) overran, we'll be looking at 2025-30 by the time we have jets on the new carriers.
Right now our Anti-Air destroyers are virtually weaponless as the PAAMS hasnt been made operational, and with no carriers for the next 15 years, just what *CAN* the Royal Navy actually do?
I think thats what they will do, i think the bbc got their facts wrong, I think they will be halo carriers until the F-35C is ready.
It's funny that just now some Tornado F3s have just headed backed into Leuchars after being scrambled to go and escort some Russian Bears out of the UK airspace. Two days in a row now that the Russians are coming for a look.
Brilliant timing isn't it.
Brilliant timing isn't it.
not really, not even close
closer to a latest version super hornet (with stealth on top) than the F22scrap JSF and make a carrier version of typhoon
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