Is it possible to aggregate on the ONT?
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The ONT only does 1 Gbps on the WAN port if you have a 4x LAN side port model, so no benefit for downstream. The newer 2.5 Gbps ones only have one LAN side port. You could ask a decent ISP such as Aquiss what the best options are if you require more than 100 Mbps upload.
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Gamma, Cerberus and a few others offer 900/200 but as @meandu229 mentioned with the Aquiss reply, it's a £190+ p/m service (+ ~£500 install).
If you had 2x 1000/100 lines I guess you'd need 2 ONTs...
Are there any decent routers which have 2 WAN ports which could balance the load across 2 lines each with a different login?
You'd also likely need a new fibre pull and GPON, which isn't going to happen as it would be cost prohibitive compared to a leased line. Each GPON serves up to 32 houses and can 'only' do 2.5 Gbps down/1.25 Gbps up.
Is there a maximum thickness of wall that the installer will drill through to install the ONT? My house is from 1790s and the stone is about 450 mm thick. Virgin haven't had an issue but conscious they will turn up and say no. Hoping to get Aquiss installed next month.
I can't say for sure but the guy that relocated our master socket only had the tools to do ~250mm though could go from both ways and double that though probably a pain to line them up. He seemed quite happy to do whatever as long as we were OK with it but that might depend installer to installer.
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I'll just explain when they come to do the survey that the wall is thick! I don't mind them drilling through the mortar joint as long as it's properly sealed at the external wall. Not that another hole in the wall will stop the draughts coming through this old thing.
I've just had confirmation through today that I can now order Aquiss!
So, my next question is, does anyone have recommendations for a router? I have a Deco S4 mesh system. Would I need anything more than that? I am currently using all 4 LAN connections on my Virgin router (in router moder with WiFi switched off) + also all ports on a 4 port switch (1 incoming, 3 outgoing), so more ports than just the 1 in/out would be required on the main unit.
Don't let ports be the limiting factor on your router choice. 8 port gigabit switches are peanuts now-a-days.
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Hi guys,
I have noticed some bt openreach vans round my area laying fibre and connection points in underground chambers, so it looks like that FTTP is six months or so away for me!
My house was built mid 60s, we are having a house extension done and our router is connected to the slave phone socket in my study , the master socket is on the other side of the house where the ducting is routed to (our builder has found the ducting) , he is looking to redirect the ducting closer to my study so openreach can install the fibre point closer to where the router is.
The ducting looks really old, good condition but narrow and I’m not sure if openreach will be able to use it to feed fibre through.
My questions are.
1) before fttp install, do openreach do a onsite site survey and talk to the homeowner ?
2) do bt openreach install new ducting if required? If so, would this usually be a additional cost?
3) are openreach funny about what existing ducting they use? I am pretty sure that our slave socket in the study was put in by a “unofficial bt engineer” before we purchased the house, the bt ducting I have seen on google images are huge and at 90mm under the ground
4) do openreach take the copper out of the existing duct when fibre has been fed through?
Thanks for reading
I have noticed some bt openreach vans round my area laying fibre and connection points in underground chambers, so it looks like that FTTP is six months or so away for me!
My house was built mid 60s, we are having a house extension done and our router is connected to the slave phone socket in my study , the master socket is on the other side of the house where the ducting is routed to (our builder has found the ducting) , he is looking to redirect the ducting closer to my study so openreach can install the fibre point closer to where the router is.
The ducting looks really old, good condition but narrow and I’m not sure if openreach will be able to use it to feed fibre through.
My questions are.
1) before fttp install, do openreach do a onsite site survey and talk to the homeowner ?
2) do bt openreach install new ducting if required? If so, would this usually be a additional cost?
3) are openreach funny about what existing ducting they use? I am pretty sure that our slave socket in the study was put in by a “unofficial bt engineer” before we purchased the house, the bt ducting I have seen on google images are huge and at 90mm under the ground
4) do openreach take the copper out of the existing duct when fibre has been fed through?
Thanks for reading
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1) No, they try and do everything in one visit
2) Maybe, it depends
3) If it works then they aren't fussed, though if you are excavating the existing duct and laying new stuff then you might as well use the proper stuff - the most important thing is to avoid 90 degree bends and instead use sweeps
4) No but you could ask them to
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2) Maybe, it depends
3) If it works then they aren't fussed, though if you are excavating the existing duct and laying new stuff then you might as well use the proper stuff - the most important thing is to avoid 90 degree bends and instead use sweeps
4) No but you could ask them to
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Thank you! My builder did say that the original ducting did have a lot of bends so he will smooth it out as they wouldn’t be able to feed the river through the ducting at the moment1) No, they try and do everything in one visit
2) Maybe, it depends
3) If it works then they aren't fussed, though if you are excavating the existing duct and laying new stuff then you might as well use the proper stuff - the most important thing is to avoid 90 degree bends and instead use sweeps
4) No but you could ask them to
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Manufactured with a blown socket and a smooth, single-wall design, this BT Grey Ducting Rigid Socketed Pipe Length is tailored for telecommunications and po...BT Grey Rigid Length Ducting Bend 54mm | Drainage Superstore®
Perfect for solid wall ducting solutions, this 54mm Grey Rigid Ducting Bend with a single socket is a popular choice for BT ducting and ideal for telecommun...
Thanks for your reply.
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Worth getting a few pull cords put in if it isn't perfectly straight as it might make life a little easier in the future.
My girlfriend has just moved into a new build house and has ordered BT Full Fibre Broadband (900Mb) and a BT TV Package. She's going to be getting the BT TV Box Pro set top box for her TV package and I'm just trying to figure out the best way to connect it to her router.
She has NOW TV with her channel package, so she'll be streaming those channels. Would it be best to use to connect the BT TV Box to the router, Powerline Networking or the inbuilt Wifi?
If Powerline Networking is the better option which set of adapters would be the best option?
Fibre ONT is in the Hall Cupboard with a Double Socket (one side powering the ONT currently).
She has NOW TV with her channel package, so she'll be streaming those channels. Would it be best to use to connect the BT TV Box to the router, Powerline Networking or the inbuilt Wifi?
If Powerline Networking is the better option which set of adapters would be the best option?
Fibre ONT is in the Hall Cupboard with a Double Socket (one side powering the ONT currently).
How far is the BT TV box from the router.
Cable it direct to the router is the best option. Then Wi-Fi, then powerline.
Powerlines usually max out 200Mb and that's if your lucky.
Also there's no real necessity that you need full speed to your BT TV box. Anything over 100Mb is already ample I believe.
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It's not that far in all honesty. The Fibre ONT and BT Router will be in her Hall Cupboard, the TV and BT TV Box will be in the next room as her Living room and Kitchen are open plan.
Unfortunately direct cabling isn't an option. I actually thought power line would be a better option than Wifi, due to Wifi interference from other devices (phones/tablets/consoles) and neighbouring networks.
I'm just trying to avoid her having drop outs while streaming NowTV channels/BT Sport as well as Netflix and Prime Video.
Will the Wifi Connection between the BT Hub and BT TV Box be ok as well as handling traffic from phones/tablets and consoles? She's taken out the BT Mesh Disk System as well for the kids rooms upstairs.
WiFi will be fine. If it were me I'd test it over Wi-Fi and if there were to be any issues you can get a powerline system after.
Try and choose a the 5ghz Wi-Fi band for the TV box. In all honesty I can't see the TV box being that demanding.