BT Infinity & FTTx Discussion

Hutchy · 13 Apr 2012 at 20:18

lozzd said:
Welcome all you late-comers to 80/20! Fun isn't it?!
At least you didn't have to pay though. Zen announcing their prices next week (for the mean time my connection is still 80/20 for free), we'll see how much they want for it (not that I'm paying)

Most are charging an extra 6£ a month for it, so I'd expect teh rest to follow suit.

TheOtherOption · 13 Apr 2012 at 20:19

Just upgraded online - far quicker and easier than phoning them up

Will have to wait up to 3 days for the upgrade to go live though so next week most likely ... here's hoping sooner

DJMK4 · 13 Apr 2012 at 20:21

NathanE said:
Too close for FTTC means you don't actually have a cabinet because your line goes direct to the exchange.

Strangely I noticed a green cab 10 meters from the BT exchange this morning after you told me this

I am not sure if it was a link to another cab a bit further out, however if not, then could it be possible there are "some" properties directly near the exchange being routed through this cab 10 meters from the exchange, then in to the exchange? Could be for the newer properties which don't have direct links to the exch

Lorddalron · 13 Apr 2012 at 20:23

Think of it like this in regards to an 18month contract. After the first twelve months, if BT dont contact you, its a simple as saying to them, right im paying X amount each month for the last 12months and your looking for better rates. Normally, which has happened to me, they come back with a cracking offer which ends contract early and start a fresh 12 or 18month contract. So originally you set yourself to 18months but in actual fact, your probably going to be with them at least two years which will go through in a flash.

Deleted member 77746 · 13 Apr 2012 at 20:59

I see green cabs popping up everywhere now. I heard next year BT are going to trial 300 meg down.

jamjar · 13 Apr 2012 at 21:03

mrbell1984 said:
I see green cabs popping up everywhere now. I heard next year BT are going to trial 300 meg down.

yeah you will see Green Cabs everywhere as the government has put a lot of money into this upgrade

cp88 · 13 Apr 2012 at 21:05

[TW]Fox;21678800 said:
I think Sky can stick it and I'll go with BT. Just how big a deal is the traffic shaping thing? Is it only P2P? What about Usenet?

The shaping is a good thing, keeps ping nice and steady 24/7. Who would risk using public torrents on their home internet
anyway? I was until recently a big newsgroup user, then I gained access to a private torrent site (IPT - I have 2 invites spare if someone wants PM me), haven't seen any throttling at all either direction.

Deleted member 77746 · 13 Apr 2012 at 21:06

jamjar said:
yeah you will see Green Cabs everywhere as the government has put a lot of money into this upgrade

It's totally paying off, theres a lot of people jumping ship to these new services. Torrents need to die.

cp88 · 13 Apr 2012 at 21:09

Public torrents maybe, private ones are great, loads of random content compared to Usenet.

I always swore by Usenet till recent.

mrbell1984 said:
Torrents need to die.

Would be bad for Usenet if torrents died, they would become the main focus for anti-copyright quite quickly..

Deleted member 77746 · 13 Apr 2012 at 21:13

cp88 said:
Public torrents maybe, private ones are great, loads of random content compared to Usenet.

I always swore by Usenet till recent.

Would be bad for Usenet if torrents died, they would become the main focus for anti-copyright quite quickly..

I think this will happen for all sites that host public torrents. Sites should be shut down if they are hosting illegal aid to content.

cp88 · 13 Apr 2012 at 21:14

Easier to shut down a Usenet provider than it is a torrent site.

Nearly impossible to shut down a torrent site, it would just reappear in another country.

AMMUT · 13 Apr 2012 at 21:21

Just tried mine. Close to what the checker said, but its downloading a bit quicker from usenet.

Spenty · 13 Apr 2012 at 21:22

Even if you do join BT, there are easy ways to avoid the p2p traffic shaping without buying a VPN.

cp88 · 13 Apr 2012 at 21:23

FU all that have been upgraded already

Seems the upload is abit slower than it should be? is the profile 20000kbps?

Locky · 13 Apr 2012 at 21:41

cp88 said:
FU all that have been upgraded already

Seems the upload is abit slower than it should be? is the profile 20000kbps?

I'm getting nion 18mbs, I was getting 9mbs with the 40mb product, so it seems about right.

coughs · 13 Apr 2012 at 21:41

Spenty said:
Even if you do join BT, there are easy ways to avoid the p2p traffic shaping without buying a VPN.

How?

Spenty · 13 Apr 2012 at 21:46

coughs said:
How?

Don't allow unencrypted peers. Use private torrent sites.

cp88 · 13 Apr 2012 at 21:48

Ah Chris, I guess a lot of people I've seen don't have QOS off.

@coughs - its rare that torrents are even throttled at all anyway, unless you live near a load of students.

drunkenmaster · 13 Apr 2012 at 22:00

mrbell1984 said:
Traffic shaping on p2p that is it. Not sure how long BT can sustain this output.

For p2p its not good as people will constantly upload all the time but, Usenet, honestly I've been on infinity for under a month and, I'm just out of **** to download. When I get say a TV ep or something, I'm simply spending half the time downloading, which leaves the network free half the time.

The main difference with both 40mb and now 80mb, is I'm just using the internet for a shorter amount of time, I'm not using it "more" so to speak. It's probably better for the network. As at any given time there will be less people actually on it.

Of course that might change if we get some good 2k tv's/screens and an increase in video quality content, which doesn't really look like happening any time soon.

cp88 · 13 Apr 2012 at 22:05

Ha I switched to torrents because Usenet was boring me, Uploading is pretty enjoyable...

Also its nice that torrents have more random content, Usenet seems to be just group releases.