BT Infinity & FTTx Discussion

I'd have to say BT just because I'm getting (when needed) the whole 80/20 flat out, no throttling or management at the moment, however BT is a bit hit or miss if you get on OK or good routing :( I'm on "ok" routing at the moment and I'd rather take a speed hit for lower latency. (BT routes my connection all around the country before it gets out onto the internet - increasing my ping to anywhere by 10ms for no good reason).
 
Kemik said:
Grrr. Moving into a new build at the end of the month. The house builders have confirmed Openreach have been in and fitted fibre. Openreach's postcode checker confirms Infinity is available. House number and postcode says it isn't...

Not sure if I'm best waiting or buying 8mb broadband with Plus.net and then upgrade when fibre is released. Not sure if they'd do it without implications though. Any suggestions?
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Send the address info to nga.enquiries@openreach.co.uk

They should be able to tell you more.
 
Just had infinity2 installed today, I need a dreytek router for lan to lan vpn but the HH5 has no modem mode.

OR chap left me a OR modem and it works fine but I only getting 31D/18U through my current vigor 2910, if I use just the HH5 modem/router i'm getting 75D/18U so it looks like its new Dreytek time. The vdsl ones are sooooooooooo expensive, £200 for a 2860n
 
We supply the 2860 series at work to new customers (business customers only) and it plugs straight into FTTC etc and allows lan to lan vpn etc, its a great product, i agree its a bit expensive though, but your kinda being grabbed by the danglies right now with any decent non BT VDSL router it seems
 
Yeah but tbh I need an additional WAP and getting rid of several boxes and associated wires and gaining gigabit ports I may as well bite the bullet.

SiDeards73, is there anything I should know within the VDSL setup, we bought a 2850n for work a couple of months ago in preparation for infinity going live in NG1 but as its not ive not set one up yet. I seem to remember reading it was tricky?
 
Well well well.

Despite being given a date of March for FTTC, if I put my phone number into the Infinity site i'm getting told it's ready to order at a speed of 79.99MBit.

Oh boy. Looks like i'll be calling BT tomorrow. :D
 
2860n+ installed and speeds are back up to 75/20. Its dual band WiFi as well so I'm getting the same speeds of 5GHz wifi
 
Re-signed a 12mth contract with bt, minor drop in price for line rental - nothing to brag about, but opening up the taps to give me the speed I should be getting anyway (my line should hold up to 69meg) but the more importantly getting the Hub 5 for free :) - the hallway will look slightly less clustered with 1 box again, and I'm looking forward to having all 1gig ethernet ports.
 
Tute said:
Well well well.

Despite being given a date of March for FTTC, if I put my phone number into the Infinity site i'm getting told it's ready to order at a speed of 79.99MBit.

Oh boy. Looks like i'll be calling BT tomorrow. :D
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Same happened to me, my cabinet was reporting May 2014, its now available, and ordered :), install on 23rd Jan.

For info, Sky offering fibre for my cabinet too, I always wondered if BT kinda got in first so to speak but it seems not. Despite having signed up for email alerts for fibre availability I still have none .
 
Hey folks! Might need some advice...

Looking at houses this weekend and found one which we are really keen on, however there is one slight snag... I was surprised to find that despite being in a new-build development there isn't any FTTC/FTTP available :( The question is do we take the risk on it being upgraded in the future or not? Here's the facts to be considered:

- BTs site says the exchange the house is connected to is "CS" (Coming Soon) and the date is June 2014

- If I put the phone number or postcode of the pub nearby the house into the broadband checkers it indicates that it can currently get ADSL at estimated 5.5Mb (range 4.5Mb - 6.5Mb)

- The sales person said that although there is no Infinity available right now the builders still did... *something* to make it easy to connect the houses to it should it become available in the future (they weren't savvy enough to be able to explain what though?)

Our current house is connected to an exchange that is already enabled, but our cabinet is not (and afaik there are no plans to upgrade it as it's in a hard to access position or something)... The checker says 7.5Mb for us but on speedtest.net I actually get about 8.5Mb... Do you think a drop from ~8.5Mb to ~5.5Mb is going to be noticeable?

Am I right in thinking that when the exchange the new house is connected to gets upgraded there should be a little bit of a boost to the speeds even if the cabinet or house itself is still not upgraded? I could handle my speeds ending up about the same as they are now, but definitely don't want to end up with crap internet :s
 
uncle_rufus said:
Am I right in thinking that when the exchange the new house is connected to gets upgraded there should be a little bit of a boost to the speeds even if the cabinet or house itself is still not upgraded?
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What makes you think that? But no you will not get any speed increase on ADSL2+ when the exchange is upgraded to FTTC..
 
Sparx said:
What makes you think that? But no you will not get any speed increase on ADSL2+ when the exchange is upgraded to FTTC..
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Haha :D I dunno?! I guess I just don't really understand how it works and assumed that the signal travels along the most high-throughput route at each stage? Feel like a fool now!

I guess there's no way to find out whether or not this exact house will ever get FTTC/FTTP until after the date that the exchange it's connected to is enabled?
 
I know this might sound stupid but theres no way to know for certain until its enabled and available. The dates are a guess at best and get moved as they approach.
 
Not sure if it's relevant for this thread but I cba to start another.

When do you think we will see gigabit internet from BT?

Romania has gigabit internet for something like $18 a month.

Romania.

Romania.

What is wrong with this country..
 
OptimaLnrg said:
Not sure if it's relevant for this thread but I cba to start another.

When do you think we will see gigabit internet from BT?

Romania has gigabit internet for something like $18 a month.

Romania.

Romania.

What is wrong with this country..
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Let me correct you.. "Some" small parts of Romania have Gigabit internet. Easy to see why you might be jealous but throw in a healthy mix of the worst poverty levels in Europe, human trafficking, human rights violations and I'm in no rush to visit.

Anyway back on track.

It's relatively easy, and I use the word carefully, for developing countries to install fibre networks. A lot of the time there's little to no existing infrastructure to start with so it makes perfect sense to "stick the good stuff" in the ground. Just like it's "easy" to install fibre networks and/or EFM in densely populated cities which is why many people cry out in anger when they see places like Korea and Japan rolling out Gigabit networks in "some" parts of the country.

It's not as simple here. Remember we've had one form of a communication network or another in ground since the Victorian era, which if we had a time machine and it were possible to ask them I'd hazard a guess you're Romanian counterparts would be asking why they couldn't have telephones at that time - "Ce e în neregulă cu această țară" I'd imagine they'd be saying.

What do you want us to do? Rip out the entire copper network and replace it all with Fibre? Can you imagine the average Brit putting up with a decade of roadworks, increased taxes and general disruption why we do it? Nope didn't think so.

It makes more logistical and financial sense to maintain what we've got and update it as we go along. Sure the big population centres will get the goodies first but that's reality.
 
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Also easy to praise other countries' nice brand new tube networks and complain about the London tube. Forgetting that they have had absolutely nothing over the last 100+ years...
 
Anybody had any experience with the company "seethelight"? They seem to be a private company who are putting in their own fibre cables in certain new-build developments.

It's FTTP which sounds great and they claim to not cap downloads etc... But it worries me slightly that they are your only choice of ISP. My understanding is after a few years of the cables being installed they would open them up to other ISPs but you're effectively stuck with seethelight until then. So yeah - any experiences to share?
 
Need a favour from BT Infinity and/or Plusnet fiber users: what's your viewing experience like on twitch.tv? How much buffering/lag do you get?

If you've never used it, you'd be doing me a favour if you could just go there and watch some livestreams and on high/source quality and see if they lag.

I wonder if Plusnet's "pro" add-on would make a difference for watching on twitch.
 
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