Building Oblivion

Xelene · 4 Jul 2011 at 10:44

I put some extra instructions on Wrye Bash near the start, the development release from SVN corrects some bugs in the Wizard - which you'll need to use to get AWLS installed. Better Cities still needs manual install until they get their wizard fixed.

daninthemix · 4 Jul 2011 at 12:57

OP, is it possible to get rid of pop-in? I have stuff popping in to few not all that far from me.

Xelene · 4 Jul 2011 at 13:18

daninthemix said:
OP, is it possible to get rid of pop-in? I have stuff popping in to few not all that far from me.

Not really. You can minimise it with larger buffers and having the game on a SSD but it still happens.

daninthemix · 4 Jul 2011 at 13:52

What's the difference in IQ between ver. 1 and 2 of your guide?

The_Nameless_On · 4 Jul 2011 at 14:05

sldsmkd said:
Send me an email via trust saying you want a link and give me your steam id so I can verify you own the game and i'll send you a link back. Or friend me on steam, sldsmkd.

I sent you a friend invite as requested, thanks again for the great guide and feel free to msg me on steam.

daninthemix · 4 Jul 2011 at 14:15

Have installed the OBGE plugins, and am struggling to discern any difference, other than with the water.

Xelene · 4 Jul 2011 at 14:54

Edit shaderlist.txt

Code:

Volumetric_SSGI.fx
CrysisDof.fx
HLSLbleachbypass.fx
MDLAA.fx

daninthemix · 4 Jul 2011 at 15:04

OK cool. What about POM etc - does that need to be in there? The file is presently empty.

EDIT - there's no way I can use this, it's killed my framerate. From 60 to 10.

Mr Krugga · 4 Jul 2011 at 15:12

Awaiting the Update

Xelene · 4 Jul 2011 at 15:40

daninthemix said:
OK cool. What about POM etc - does that need to be in there? The file is presently empty.

EDIT - there's no way I can use this, it's killed my framerate. From 60 to 10.

Volumetric_SSGI.fx is the worst culprit, take that out.

daninthemix · 4 Jul 2011 at 15:46

So if shaderlist.txt is empty, does that mean OBGE is doing nothing? Can't be - the water has changed. Confused!

Xelene · 4 Jul 2011 at 17:22

Water, Parralax, Skies and HDR work differently. Not controlled by shaderlist.

daninthemix · 4 Jul 2011 at 22:37

Hmm, your guide is great but annoying. I didn't pay £330 for a GPU this year so that a 6 year old game could kick it in the ********!

My framerate is dropping to the low 20s quite frequently, and I have tested without OBGE and that isn't it. I assume it must be the distant LOD and RAEVWD stuff that's causing it?

EDIT had a look in Afterburner, frequently 90%+ GPU usage and over 1200MB VRAM usage!

Xelene · 4 Jul 2011 at 22:57

daninthemix said:
Hmm, your guide is great but annoying. I didn't pay £330 for a GPU this year so that a 6 year old game could kick it in the ********!

My framerate is dropping to the low 20s quite frequently, and I have tested without OBGE and that isn't it. I assume it must be the distant LOD and RAEVWD stuff that's causing it?

EDIT had a look in Afterburner, frequently 90%+ GPU usage and over 1200MB VRAM usage!

Yeah my 6970 runs at 95% usually

At least it's doing something! You might want to drop the LODs down a notch on a 570.

Fledge · 4 Jul 2011 at 23:05

It's disappointing that the devs don't do this themselves.

daninthemix · 4 Jul 2011 at 23:07

Did you say you were working on something that would cull invisible things that were still being rendered? That would definintely help I think.

Xelene · 4 Jul 2011 at 23:17

When RAEVWD runs it generates *.LOD files in Oblivion\Data\GeneratedLOD - each one corresponds to a cell on the map. (You can see X and Y coordinates in the file name).

I've cobbled together a whitelist of cells that have something of interest in them and are in the more open areas (so not behind half a mile of forest). The script just deletes the LOD from areas you are less likely to see. It has around 60 cells whitelisted (out of maybe a 1000) - helps framerates a lot. It means you may get statues and such popping up - but the key dungeons and landmarks should stay viewable when distant.

It does the same thing as some of the other VWD mods, but uses the much improved meshes from RAEVWD. (The other mods just display the full detail meshes)

I'll tidy it up and post it, but won't be for a week or so.

daninthemix · 4 Jul 2011 at 23:24

Sounds great. I was literally running a constant 60, but then a few mods later (I didn't track exactly which) and I'm down in the 20s. Amazing.

KatanaDV20 · 5 Jul 2011 at 00:02

Just wanted to report something funny.

I was getting stutters after applying all these mods.,

Then I decided to apply the mighty 1.7GB Qarls Texture Pack (the highest res version)

Stutters have now vanished. Game is as smooth as silk!

Xelene · 5 Jul 2011 at 00:12

KatanaDV20 said:
Just wanted to report something funny.

I was getting stutters after applying all these mods.,

Then I decided to apply the mighty 1.7GB Qarls Texture Pack (the highest res version)

Stutters have now vanished. Game is as smooth as silk!

Sounds like texture memory being too high. What happens if you overlay improved trees & flora over it?

Bring up the console in oblivion by pressing '`' (key to left of number 1)

Type:

sdt 13
tdt

Should be able to see Texture RAM used.