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check my edit 
also, i dont know what forum andy is thinking of, but there must be something, because there is no reason that andy would make those accusations with no evidence
also, i dont know what forum andy is thinking of, but there must be something, because there is no reason that andy would make those accusations with no evidence
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check two pages back, i'm pretty sure that you were talking about the game. those posts were on the 12th, and you made your refund thread on the 13th
i'm firmly on Andy's side now
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right, thats enough arguing, have another screenshot
due to licencing reasons, this paint will not be available in the full game, but i wouldnt be surprised if someone else makes it pretty quickly
full res: http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/903/pcars2012031422424326.png
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Been having a blast around Wisconsin in the Racer L4-RS whooping Jasnoo 
check my edit
also, i dont know what forum andy is thinking of, but there must be something, because there is no reason that andy would make those accusations with no evidence
please dont get involved i know you want to get a lacky place over there but please just dont try to earn points off of me
cause i will make you earn them . you dont have to try and stoop low to get your place earn it !right put this to bed show my posts ! or shut the **** up simples that should lead to a ban !
get on with your game and learn to take criticism without banning people for nothing !
check two pages back, i'm pretty sure that you were talking about the game. those posts were on the 12th, and you made your refund thread on the 13th
i'm firmly on Andy's side now
I asked for a refund a few hours later after finding out about lap times...bought on the 13th ...got refund on the 13th.. between when I bought the game and when i got my refund is when i made my post (asking for refund) ..in the same period of time Dg was asking about laptimes and stuff....so sir ..that was infact when Dg was simply asking about laptimes and before we even started posting on other forums ..as you can tell by looking into the dates and times.
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the game is good just be aware of what you get in each package
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well, if your happy to race without leaderboards for a few weeks this month then its only £8, the physics are great and the graphics are stunning.
if you want your builds updated more often (and less leaderboard downtime) then its ~£22
(prices are 10 euros and 25 euros for the two lowest toolpacks)
please dont get involved i know you want to get a lacky place over there but please just dont try to earn points off of me
right put this to bed show my posts ! or shut the **** up simples that should lead to a ban !
get on with your game and learn to take criticism without banning people for nothing !
and how exactly am i supposed to show you the posts which i said i dont know where they are?
(unless your talking about the OcUK posts, in which case most of your arguments for leaderboards being an essential part of your roll in this project were absolute rubbish. for a full game i would agree with your points, but not for CARS in its current stage of development)
just because you didnt own the game doesnt stop your posts from a few days ago from being rubbish
Idd it is a good game ...but when they would rather edit your posts and talk crap than take criticism and improving the game ..then no thank you the game is not for me so I asked for a refund. Seen many games just as good as this one and are for free that dont give you any of this crap so I know the right choice was to get my refund and choose another game.
I didnt post on any forums or anything before I bought the game ..so how could I have posted rubbish a few days ago ?
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ok, i can see that you have two posts, and one of them is edited. i suspect, but i am happy to be proved wrong, that, if your post was edited by someone other than you, it is because it was just flaming the game/devs/content/whatever, or because it was rude. obviously i dont have access to the original comment, so this is guesswork.
last response from me and ill leave you to your game as long as you stop the bs.
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(unless your talking about the OcUK posts, in which case most of your arguments for leaderboards being an essential part of your roll in this project were absolute rubbish. for a full game i would agree with your points, but not for CARS in its current stage of development)
that s the whole point in your eyes maybe not but in my eyes it is vital . the game is supposed to be alpha so early enough stage to maybe change simple things like laps times which are very important in any racing game whether you agree or not ! do you see f1 on tv with no one doing laptimes ? or none of them being saved recorded . one of the most important thing in racing is your time ! yes its not everything but saying it isnt important is a lie. no matter what stage you at.
laptimes are important and if not why have they even added a them and leaderboards for others ? either disable the boards while doing the testing totally that way there isnt any encouragement to upgrade to have you times listed ( this is why i mentioned the greed part ; cause to have your times listed near enough always you need a dearer license build than junior) ) or just stay as you are and maybe log and do a leadboard for juniors . it wasnt a unfair request .
"quote "
(unless your talking about the OcUK posts, in which case most of your arguments for leaderboards being an essential part of your roll in this project were absolute rubbish. for a full game i would agree with your points, but not for CARS in its current stage of development)
that s the whole point in your eyes maybe not but in my eyes it is vital . the game is supposed to be alpha so early enough stage to maybe change simple things like laps times which are very important in any racing game whether you agree or not ! do you see f1 on tv with no one doing laptimes ? or none of them being saved recorded . one of the most important thing in racing is your time ! yes its not everything but saying it isnt important is a lie. no matter what stage you at.
laptimes are important and if not why have they even added a them and leaderboards for others ? either disable the boards while doing the testing totally that way there isnt any encouragement to upgrade to have you times listed ( this is why i mentioned the greed part ; cause to have your times listed near enough always you need a dearer license build than junior) ) or just stay as you are and maybe log and do a leadboard for juniors . it wasnt a unfair request .
That was me that edited that post because I spelt something wrong lol ...It was Dg's post that got edited ..not mine ...but still doesnt change the fact that they edit posts to suit what they want people to see ...and not the accual post.
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sorry, my bad, your right on this point. the top of page 23(?) is dated 12th december, but your posts are dated 13th
i guess it was either other forums, or Andy getting confused with your and DG's accounts
ok, lets make this as simple as possible.
- yes, i agree that laptimes are very important in racing games
- no, i do not agree that they are essential during development.
- the leaderboards need testing just like every other part of the game so they will be included in the builds
- it would be unfair to all the other players if you were able to post to the same leaderboard with faster cars due to a physics update slowing the newer cars down
- it would cost a lot of time and money to develop code that would ultimately not be used in the final game to have different leaderboards in the builds
the problem you have is that we have differing views on what the game is about. your view is that it is another game to play with your friends that happens to be in development. my view is that its a game i am helping to develop, and whatever content i get will test to the best of my ability.
CARS isnt the only pre-release racing game to not have leaderboards. the demo of forza 2 had no leaderboards despite being far further in development than CARS.
lastly, i think we should just agree to disagree. you have your refund so are no worse off and it looks like we both like the game (aside from the whole leaderboard thing)
Did you accually read anything we wrote
) YES it would not be fair to have the same leaderboards ...that why we asked for SEPERATE leaderboards for juniors. You saying that it would cost a lot of time and money to develope code is lies ..We gave them money ..and the code is already there so they dont need to deveope it. so just stop right there sir as it seems you dont know what your talking about.Wrong again ..CARS does have leaderboards ...leaderboards that all toolpacks should have.
I agree that im not worse off ....But I dont agree with how they handled things ..there snakes and I dont like snakes.
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what post got edited? i can see one post of his that got edited, and by the sound of it he was in quite a bad mood about having to wait until the next junior build until he can post leaderboard times again.
by the way, DG, you do realise that the major physics updates that stop juniors from posting leaderboard times dont come that often. theres usually several weeks between each update that requires a leaderboard wipe.
when the person said every few builds, i suspect he was talking about every few of the weekly builds