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new coming this week
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2012 Ruf RGT-8 (WIP)
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Bathurst got all new trees last friday as well to get rid of the crappy stupidly light place holder ones
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2012 Ruf RGT-8 (WIP)
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Bathurst got all new trees last friday as well to get rid of the crappy stupidly light place holder ones
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I wish they'd sort out some of the cars already in before adding yet more cars with numb or borked handling 
They do look nice though 
They do look nice though I wish they'd sort out some of the cars already in before adding yet more cars with numb or borked handling
It's not the people modelling the cars that are working on the handling
I think casey and A.J do the tyres and physics
anyway they have been car handling stuff done recently
physics changes sinc e build 407
They tend to focus on the cars ben colins and nicolas hamilton give feed back on.
they are sorting out the karts mainly at the minute based on nic hamiltons feedback
With the cars they just input all the real world data for the engine , suspension geometry , chassis etc and then change the tyres until the cars handle like they should which is a slow process and why most of the changes are always about the tyres.
Dont forget it wasnt that long ago when there was only one tyre type in the game and now theres over a dozen different tyre models
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They do look incredible but I think they are misleading to be honest. I have got all settings maxed in game and it looks no where near as good as that.
I realise that I am not playing the final product etc but I can't help feeling that those screen shots are touched up for the wow factor to hype it up.
they are used to hype it up . the game could be great until they sort handling though its a 70 percent game at best while handling is goosed.
asseto is looking better at moment if the handling is good and signs point to it being great on many sim sights.
what is so annoying is in earlier builds in cars the handling was amazing. so frustrating as it has the potential to be one of the best but i just dont know who they listening to when it comes to handling as its some kind of nightmare.
asseto is looking better at moment if the handling is good and signs point to it being great on many sim sights.
what is so annoying is in earlier builds in cars the handling was amazing. so frustrating as it has the potential to be one of the best but i just dont know who they listening to when it comes to handling as its some kind of nightmare.
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how are they not ingame shots when all screenshots and videos is captured by the community?
they press ctrl+f and enter freecam
the only things not taken in game are sometimes when the devs are showing progress on a car they are modelling like the ruf (porsche) car in the garage a few posts up that is a render
most of the fanmade trailers use a mix of replay footage and freecam but the graphics on the replays are exactly the same as they are ingame apart from a DOF effect but you can turn that on during a race with f3
Maybe you should stick to arcade games then as the original handling was the slightly modified shift 2 handling...
from before they wrote the new tyre model and physicsthey are listening to ben colins who undoubtedly has much more car and race experience than you.
people are using sweetFX for sharper textures , better colours etc and massive amounts of AA.
I use sweetfx+8x msaa + downsampling from 2560x to 1920x1080 and get around 40fps or 60 if i stop downsampling
my game looks like this
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the UI is off because I entered freecam but you can tell its taken ingame because the driving line
same on this one
and one with the UI taken from a crappy angle but the car still looks as good as ever
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and you know what you just pointed out arknor the whole problem with the handling they trying to make it for racing drivers !
how many here are racing drivers please put hands up
this is why gamers should have more input on the steering as theyll be playing it not racing drivers.
they have tried to go too complicated with adding fancy ****
90 percent who will be playing this probably wont even be using a wheel .
i do hope they actually sit back and take on board some of this feedback on steering as what good is a car game which has dodgy steering ? doesnt matter how good it looks at whatever angle if it cant go round a basic corner ingame.
also before anyone just says dg ranting again about cars check a lot of posts on the web the cars forums it aint just me mentioning bad steering issues. i want the game to do well it has the potential but until the steering is sorted a lot wont buy this.
how many here are racing drivers please put hands up
this is why gamers should have more input on the steering as theyll be playing it not racing drivers.
they have tried to go too complicated with adding fancy ****
90 percent who will be playing this probably wont even be using a wheel
.i do hope they actually sit back and take on board some of this feedback on steering as what good is a car game which has dodgy steering ? doesnt matter how good it looks at whatever angle if it cant go round a basic corner ingame.
also before anyone just says dg ranting again about cars check a lot of posts on the web the cars forums it aint just me mentioning bad steering issues. i want the game to do well it has the potential but until the steering is sorted a lot wont buy this.
The majority of cars in the game are proper race cars they shouldn't handle like a road car would
It's supposed to be a simulation of the real thing and not what a gamer imagines a car handles like
you clearly arent into sims if you prefered the old arcade handling model from shift 2
if you don't like it stop hating and get a refund on the wmd forum
It's supposed to be a simulation of the real thing and not what a gamer imagines a car handles like
yea really....
lol... funny how most of the cars in the game lap a race track almost exactly as fast as the real life car does.
you clearly arent into sims if you prefered the old arcade handling model from shift 2
if you don't like it stop hating and get a refund on the wmd forum
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you seem to not understand the game should be geared towards gamers we play it not racing drivers !
so you have racing drivers trying to make a game which isnt going to be played by racing drivers ! trying to be too complicated and the end product is a mess. it needs balance it hasnt got it.
blablah road cars yes i understand the logic but it doesnt work .
best thing is you trying to make out thy marketing it as a sim yet its main sales when released will be on console
ill have a bet with you arknor 1st yr sales of cars will be bigger on console than pc
so you have racing drivers trying to make a game which isnt going to be played by racing drivers ! trying to be too complicated and the end product is a mess. it needs balance it hasnt got it.
blablah road cars yes i understand the logic but it doesnt work .
best thing is you trying to make out thy marketing it as a sim yet its main sales when released will be on console
ill have a bet with you arknor 1st yr sales of cars will be bigger on console than pc
well seeing as its coming out on all 3 consoles... and maybe the next gen ones as well it's unlikely it will sell more copies on the pc.... but its firstly a pc sim and that is the market the game is aimed at mostly regardless of where the game will have more sales.
its a PC game funded by pc users so it makes sense for it to be a full on sim and not just another forza or shift game
it's supposed to be a simulation of racing it makes no sense for it to be anything other than authentic with real racing drivers helping to tailor the handling to what they expect from the real thing.
if sims aren't for you then don't play them and stick to simcade games.
there's some doubt over whether the consoles are powerful enough for the new tyre model so on console the handling might be like the old BTM one with unrealistic grip levels.
if you don't like pcars you probably don't like any of the other full on sims either
also if you read the wmd forums you would see the real racing drivers aren't happy yet either such as
Maybe once all the handling and tyres are fully sorted and the cars have a good base setup which many don't right now the game will be more to your liking and as you should know the current tyre model is being improved all the time and theres still a long way until the game is released.
they only just started optimising the games graphics engine to try and improve performance.
the next patch should give a little boost for ati users
its a PC game funded by pc users so it makes sense for it to be a full on sim and not just another forza or shift game
it's supposed to be a simulation of racing it makes no sense for it to be anything other than authentic with real racing drivers helping to tailor the handling to what they expect from the real thing.
if sims aren't for you then don't play them and stick to simcade games.
there's some doubt over whether the consoles are powerful enough for the new tyre model so on console the handling might be like the old BTM one with unrealistic grip levels.
if you don't like pcars you probably don't like any of the other full on sims either
also if you read the wmd forums you would see the real racing drivers aren't happy yet either such as
Maybe once all the handling and tyres are fully sorted and the cars have a good base setup which many don't right now the game will be more to your liking and as you should know the current tyre model is being improved all the time and theres still a long way until the game is released.
they only just started optimising the games graphics engine to try and improve performance.
the next patch should give a little boost for ati users
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and you know what you just pointed out arknor the whole problem with the handling they trying to make it for racing drivers !
how many here are racing drivers please put hands up
this is why gamers should have more input on the steering as theyll be playing it not racing drivers.
That may be but these people will want as realistic experience as possible. If you buy this without a wheel knowing it's going to be a sim then it's your decision.
so this game is for wheel owners only then as that's a little odd as I bet many pc gamers who'd want to play this won't have a wheel, seems strange as that cuts a huge percentage of possible players right out, loss of sales will be huge if it's a wheel only game. they'd be better off allowing for you to scale towards either gamepad or wheel IMO.
game however looks amazingly good, shift 2 with fxaa sweetfx and massive amounts of aa can look incredible if you ask me, but this is taking it to the next level...
game however looks amazingly good, shift 2 with fxaa sweetfx and massive amounts of aa can look incredible if you ask me, but this is taking it to the next level...
I can happily mess about with a keyboard right now as long as traction and stability assists are on but its much more enjoyable with my wheel and all assists off
no one forces anyone to have a wheel but the best experience from a sim will always be with a wheel. people can still be competitive with a pad as they are in other sims just don't expect to be anywhere near as good as wheel users if you are using a keyboard with on/off inputs
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I'd just like to quote this to emphasise how much of a difference it makes. I cant remember what settings you can fiddle with when you use sweetFX or equivalent software, but the game still runs in real time and produces amazing graphics. Some people use settings that give them very low framerates just so they can take good screenshots and get around the parts of the game that are poorly implemented graphically so far (*cough anti-aliasing *cough*) though so I understand if you think its misleading, but when you consider virtually no optimisation has been done so far i suspect very similar settings will be possible in the final game, especially with the next generation of graphics cards
Regarding the handling argument. no matter what the controller I think SMS have the right idea. Most gamers want a racing simulator to be as close to real life as possible (i.e. the definition of simulator). The more racing drivers we can get saying "this is really close to what my car feels like" the better.
Since it is a racing simulator most users will at least have an xbox controller or something similar. having used pCARS with an xbox controller for a long time before i got my wheel i can tell you that the gamepad filtering they provide is more than enough to be very competitive on the game. Hell, even I set a world record or two with my pad. There isn't a lot you can do about keyboard users because there is no sensible way of getting more than an on/off signal for the major controls, but the same is true in all games.
Tiff Needell is at least as qualified as Ben Collins as a driver i'd say.
Tiff says Dirt 3 is most realistic handling out of all race games.
IRacing he says is rubbish
SimRaceway he liked.
Thing is though, yeah he may be an experienced race driver but does it actually count for anything ?
Tiff says Dirt 3 is most realistic handling out of all race games.
IRacing he says is rubbish
SimRaceway he liked.
Thing is though, yeah he may be an experienced race driver but does it actually count for anything ?