Robbie G said:
FatRakoon - is there any chance that your C2d system is cluttered or is it a fresh install?
Fresh install... I took the RAID off it last night, and just used the one Drive.
Mostly because one of the drives is a bit clunky and I will be returning it soon, but the main reason is that while defragging etc is much quicker, overall I dont find RAID all that much better than a normal Good HD for basic general stuff and so that was overkill.
easyrider said:
PMSL
Hmmm
I smell BS
Anyone who defrags their hardrives wen burning DVD's is a noob.
I'm sorry its should be a scheduled task thats done when the pc is not in use.
Half the stuff you talk of has nothing to do with CPU power but with disk access.
Are you burning the 4 DVD's at the same time at 16x?
ROTFL
P.S its ALT-TAB to cycle through apps not CTRL-TAB
Smell what you like. I dont give a toss. I know what I see, and in my case, the AMD has proved to be the faster system for my jobs I ask of it.
Burning & Defragging = Noob.
Why?
I use O&O, and I defrag C: first then D: and by the time its got to E:, the burning will usually have finished... Even when it has not, its setup so it will put priority to the burn rather than the defrag.
Disk Access Yes, thats true, but Disk access only happens for a short while, it does not explain why the system is so slow going in and out of apps when using ( ALT + TAB ) - Thanks for the correction on that.
Burn Speed = 16x
Hell no. I try to burn as slow as possible to be honest, so 2x and only sometimes 4x... The LG Burners wont go lower and the DataWrite Titaniums fail if they are lower, so 4x on those, but the riteks are always done at 1x or 2x depending on whats going onto them.
If I burn 4 at once at 16x the chances of disk failures are much greater, so I never bother, plus they dont actually burn at the 16x even if I did have 16x disks and they end up being no faster than 8x anyway.
snowdog said:
FatRakoon,
Have you actually checked cpu usage when doing notepad, when i start notepad cpu usage doesnt go above 2 %, although i do hear my hdd seeking, as easyrider said, most of your probs sound like hdd lag, nothing to do with the cpu itself, or with wrong settings, like windows useing most res for program x instead of for program y or user input, all fix-able with ctrl-alt-del and set priority's... ( for cpu anyhow).
4 DVD's at once? How can you stand that, i usually get ****** for just having to burn one, i hate starting up software, putting empty dvd's in, etc etc...
Also you know its bad to defrag a hdd being used?
( not that i dont do that myself sometimes )
But i seriously think you have problems with your config, and with a proper tweak everything would crush the amd...
Oh no, Notepad takes nothign from the CPU, or even the disk access itself, its that Explorer itself takes up the whole % of the CPU and needs time to kind of sort itself out before it loads it up.
4 DVDs... Well, I usually just put the disks in, and click on go really. During the first 20 or so seconds the other instances of Nero can seem to hang while its getting itselt in order, but most of the time, I am burning the same files you see, so, I just select multiple drives and this way its just like Im burning one. When I do burn my own stuff off, I only really burn 2 Disks if they are different files, occasionally I might burn a third, but only if its a CD. And I only really burn CDs at 8x - no reason other than I have burned them slow since I first got my first burner, and I really dont care too much about how long it takes as long as its a good burn.
Know how bad it is to defrag a HD being used?
Crap. Windows access the disk every time Windows does anything, it has the Pagefile on the disk and so even if you were running nothing but defragging the drive, windows would still access the disk for something.
I have been using a Maxtor 40GB for my downloads disk for 4 years or so now, and I have been permanently downlaoding onto that drive, with IMESH, Ares, and now Torrents, and I have defragged that drive every few days and its still going strong.
My C: is defragged 2 or 3 times a week, and D: and E: are only defragged when they need to be, and T: has been defragged perhaps twice - EVER! cos it rarely changes and so does not need to be.
Sure, if I only had one large drive and expecting to do what I do and defrag it as well, would be pushing the boat a little and I would expect nothign but bad news, but I have 4 drives ( 6 partitions ) and with Windows on C: - my games and Apps on D: - the Media on E: - Junk on F: - downlaods on M: and the ISOs on T: I can access more than one partition and not have any problems burnign from another and defragging a third all without the partitions touching each other.
No, you can do a hell of a lot more disk access with multiple drives than you would think, so defragging and burning at the same time wont touch it at all.
Proper tweak?
Im all ears.
Hell, I put enough money into this PC and after all that Im still finding that I prefer the AMD for hard work, then tell me what I need to do, because right now, the AMD is being the better system for my needs.
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Please please please everyone read my posts properly, and try to see what I am trying to say.
I have never once said that the AMD is faster than the conroe at any one task... I know its not, the conroe is much faster.
But, what I am saying is that when you load the PC up with several jobs, the lagging ( that is only to be expected with even the best CPU ) get so much greater on the conroe that in the end the AMD is still very responsive while the conroe struggles... And this makes the AMD for me, the better option.
