icecold - Yep studies are manipulated but you can't deny what you see around you. As for anthropomorphised feelings. It's that Descartes Cartesian way of looking at animals, like they're machines... it's outdated. Animals are not inanimate, stupid objects, who can't think and feel. Is slavery - owner, victim, profit, domination - exclusive to the human race? Is the earth not enslaved too, it's oceans, forests and the earth itself become victims?
wedgie - Slaughtering billions of animals every year is not nature, that's not what is suppose to happen. We are completely abusing our position in the food chain. I'm against the meat and dairy industry not you. Also we are not animals nor caveman or women anymore we need to stop acting like neanderthals. No it doesn't bother me that animals kill animals, it bothers me that we are abusing them, raping them, enslaving them. It bothers me that people don't think animals go through the same things, emotions that we go through.
icecold - Yes murder. Other than psychological and physical abuse, torture, dismemberment and murder, what else do you think happens to animals inside of a slaughterhouse?
Okay so go outside and kill a squirrel, with your barehands no tools. I want to see you use your carnivore feet and catch it, pounce on him and catch him in your mouth. No tools, weapons, traps. You don't get to be a cheater and a fake carnivore. When you are done killing the squirrel in your mouth, eat it. I mean all of it, you don't get to choose what you want to eat and you don't get to choose to cook it either. You're a real meat eater. Animals eating other animals are designed to do it, they have the intestine length for it. They have a short intestinal tract, so they can push decaying and rotting animal flesh through quickly. Animal protein, cholesterol, saturated fat, trans-fatty acids, which is why it is impossible for any genuine meat eater to ever, clog their arteries.
Skeptic -
Remember I'm not your enemy here, just trying to reconnect people with animals. We all used to love animals as a kid, true animal lovers and friends to the animal kingdom. They used to make us laugh and smile, they made us happy as kids. Yeah I might sound like a five year old but remember there was a time in your life when you would do anything in the world to make your pets happy. To protect them from cruely, or at least acknowledge the cruelty they were receiving. If someone was mean to them infront of you, you'd of screamed and cried. Because you understood right form wrong - when it came to the way animals are treated. Until the meat and dairy industry told you differently.
If a cow kicked you then we'd have to look at it from your view point, the victim. I'm sure if cows mass enslaved us we would be screaming for justice.
wedgie - Slaughtering billions of animals every year is not nature, that's not what is suppose to happen. We are completely abusing our position in the food chain. I'm against the meat and dairy industry not you. Also we are not animals nor caveman or women anymore we need to stop acting like neanderthals. No it doesn't bother me that animals kill animals, it bothers me that we are abusing them, raping them, enslaving them. It bothers me that people don't think animals go through the same things, emotions that we go through.
icecold - Yes murder. Other than psychological and physical abuse, torture, dismemberment and murder, what else do you think happens to animals inside of a slaughterhouse?
Okay so go outside and kill a squirrel, with your barehands no tools. I want to see you use your carnivore feet and catch it, pounce on him and catch him in your mouth. No tools, weapons, traps. You don't get to be a cheater and a fake carnivore. When you are done killing the squirrel in your mouth, eat it. I mean all of it, you don't get to choose what you want to eat and you don't get to choose to cook it either. You're a real meat eater. Animals eating other animals are designed to do it, they have the intestine length for it. They have a short intestinal tract, so they can push decaying and rotting animal flesh through quickly. Animal protein, cholesterol, saturated fat, trans-fatty acids, which is why it is impossible for any genuine meat eater to ever, clog their arteries.
Skeptic -
Remember I'm not your enemy here, just trying to reconnect people with animals. We all used to love animals as a kid, true animal lovers and friends to the animal kingdom. They used to make us laugh and smile, they made us happy as kids. Yeah I might sound like a five year old but remember there was a time in your life when you would do anything in the world to make your pets happy. To protect them from cruely, or at least acknowledge the cruelty they were receiving. If someone was mean to them infront of you, you'd of screamed and cried. Because you understood right form wrong - when it came to the way animals are treated. Until the meat and dairy industry told you differently.
If a cow kicked you then we'd have to look at it from your view point, the victim. I'm sure if cows mass enslaved us we would be screaming for justice.
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plus no nasty hormones in soya milk 
Do you have any blog/log about that, what you ate and how you achieved it?