Soldato
Thank you. On the face of it, it sounds like an apology would be all that's needed.
Can they sack me?
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Thank you. On the face of it, it sounds like an apology would be all that's needed.
Caporegime
IVF is an absolutely brutal emotionally. Hope you get success from the treatment.
Soldato
If all else fails get your Wang out and slap it on the desk.
B..b..b...b...but, my workplace says they want everyone to be themselves, bring their "whole" selves to work, etc. (as long as those views perfectly accord with those of the workplace).
I worked in governance for just over a decade and found that HR generally, haven't got a clue what they are doing. If unions or staff push back in a sensible manner, asking for reciepts and evidence 90% of the time it just falls to pieces straight away. The rest would generally be so weak they'd actively look for excuses not to take formal action unless it was patently obvious and there was a ludicrous amount of evidence backing up the claims.
Soldato
That was the last we ever heard of him!
Caporegime
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Plot twist, the OP was actually the HR dept.
Associate
HR will be Trump supporters and he will be laid off for voting for Biden.
Associate
Soldato
So do I.
So it went okay but doesn't look great.
The woman has built up a small portfolio of hate for me so I had to answer questions about a few incidents, besides the abortion thing which she has milked for all it's worth. One was a time in the staff room last month when she was asking if anyone could give her a lift home as we finish at 22:00. The guy who sometimes does said he couldn't as he finished at 20:00. She said she would do anything for the person who agrees. I said that if that is the case then I'll do it. She then hugged me (inappropriately, I felt) and I dropped her off home that night despite it being nowhere near where I live. She missed most of that out though and just referenced the part where I agreed to if she's offering to do anything. I'm asked if I could see how this might have been uncomfortable for her as it contained sexual connotations. What a bitch. I deny that there was anything sexual about the comment.
I work(ed) in a care setting and one of the service-users has cerebral palsy and it's difficult to know whether he is in discomfort or how he's feeling from one day to the next. His care plan doesn't make things much easier to understand - there are numerous possibilities for each sound or gesture he makes. I asked staff about him when I had just started. I wanted to know how we can tell what sort of life he has; how do we know what his quality of life is like and what do all the different signs and signals that he makes mean? This was purely out of curiosity to try to empathise with his lifestyle. This has not been worded like this in the complaint though - instead I apparently asked what the point was in this man's life. That one hurt a little. The fact that it took place in the service-uers's own home where he could potentially be listening in didn't help, but then I was the junoir employee in the scenario and so the conversation could have been shut down and continued in the staff room or in private.
There were a couple of other smaller things that he says I should have reported or at least ask senoir staff about first rather than making my own mind up about it: things like one of our service-users wanting me to assist him in looking through escort services in the local area. I thought it was okay since technically it is the guy's own house.
He's going to write up my comments and then it's being passed up to HR and they will get back to me before my next shift is set to start on Wednesday morning. He says that he has to decide whether this is a case of lack of self-awareness on my part or not and if so if it's something that can be rectified. That it is concerning that this has all happened in a short space of time and so can it be changed or should they expect incidents every month?
I would say I feel it's 70-30 in favour of me losing my job to the point where I'm starting to look for other jobs after I post this.
Looking at my own role in my (potential) demise I would say that the lesson to be learned is not to get involved in conversations around sensitive topics with people you don't know well / in a work setting - even if they start the conversation. Also note that young people - I would say people in their 20s - can be more sensitive than I give them credit for. Finally - any comment that includes potential sexual references, no matter how innocuous they may seem, can be flipped and used against you.
Stick to that as a guideline and do your job well and you should be okay. Lesson learned.
Feeling good about the prospect of finding something else but will contonue to work for them if they allow it (which I'm probably down to 75-25 now) until I get a start elsewhere.
Shame but you live and learn.
The woman has built up a small portfolio of hate for me so I had to answer questions about a few incidents, besides the abortion thing which she has milked for all it's worth. One was a time in the staff room last month when she was asking if anyone could give her a lift home as we finish at 22:00. The guy who sometimes does said he couldn't as he finished at 20:00. She said she would do anything for the person who agrees. I said that if that is the case then I'll do it. She then hugged me (inappropriately, I felt) and I dropped her off home that night despite it being nowhere near where I live. She missed most of that out though and just referenced the part where I agreed to if she's offering to do anything. I'm asked if I could see how this might have been uncomfortable for her as it contained sexual connotations. What a bitch. I deny that there was anything sexual about the comment.
I work(ed) in a care setting and one of the service-users has cerebral palsy and it's difficult to know whether he is in discomfort or how he's feeling from one day to the next. His care plan doesn't make things much easier to understand - there are numerous possibilities for each sound or gesture he makes. I asked staff about him when I had just started. I wanted to know how we can tell what sort of life he has; how do we know what his quality of life is like and what do all the different signs and signals that he makes mean? This was purely out of curiosity to try to empathise with his lifestyle. This has not been worded like this in the complaint though - instead I apparently asked what the point was in this man's life. That one hurt a little. The fact that it took place in the service-uers's own home where he could potentially be listening in didn't help, but then I was the junoir employee in the scenario and so the conversation could have been shut down and continued in the staff room or in private.
There were a couple of other smaller things that he says I should have reported or at least ask senoir staff about first rather than making my own mind up about it: things like one of our service-users wanting me to assist him in looking through escort services in the local area. I thought it was okay since technically it is the guy's own house.
He's going to write up my comments and then it's being passed up to HR and they will get back to me before my next shift is set to start on Wednesday morning. He says that he has to decide whether this is a case of lack of self-awareness on my part or not and if so if it's something that can be rectified. That it is concerning that this has all happened in a short space of time and so can it be changed or should they expect incidents every month?
I would say I feel it's 70-30 in favour of me losing my job to the point where I'm starting to look for other jobs after I post this.
Looking at my own role in my (potential) demise I would say that the lesson to be learned is not to get involved in conversations around sensitive topics with people you don't know well / in a work setting - even if they start the conversation. Also note that young people - I would say people in their 20s - can be more sensitive than I give them credit for. Finally - any comment that includes potential sexual references, no matter how innocuous they may seem, can be flipped and used against you.
Stick to that as a guideline and do your job well and you should be okay. Lesson learned.
Feeling good about the prospect of finding something else but will contonue to work for them if they allow it (which I'm probably down to 75-25 now) until I get a start elsewhere.
Shame but you live and learn.
Over the autumn I attended 6 interviews for care jobs and was successful in each one. The job I took seemed the best fit at the time (and in terms of shift-pattern and location it still is, but hey-ho). So this morning I started by contacting the other 5 and asking if they still had vacancies and if so would I need to go through the whole Disclosure / interview / training thing all over again or could I be fast-tracked. Two of them have responded: one of them offering a follow-up interview on Friday and another accepting my interview from last year and arranging a training session next Monday. So Already I have two promising options.
The thought of going back to my job after all of this is kind of daunting. I know what staff rooms are like when people (usually women but don't tell anyone I said that - I don't want to get cancelled twice in one weekend) get together and there's a tasty new story involving a colleague. Hopefully I can get a start at one of these jobs within a week or so. Put it down to experience.
I think after this message I'll have reached my maximum posts for new members for 24 hours or so but rest-assured I'll be applying for jobs and will check back in whenever I hear back from my job with the verdict.
The thought of going back to my job after all of this is kind of daunting. I know what staff rooms are like when people (usually women but don't tell anyone I said that - I don't want to get cancelled twice in one weekend) get together and there's a tasty new story involving a colleague. Hopefully I can get a start at one of these jobs within a week or so. Put it down to experience.
I think after this message I'll have reached my maximum posts for new members for 24 hours or so but rest-assured I'll be applying for jobs and will check back in whenever I hear back from my job with the verdict.
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Caporegime
Mostly shows how you can put a bad spin on anything, I guess.
Good luck find a job in a better workplace. On the upside the care sector is crying out for workers and you've been there a short enough time you can miss it off your CV in future without having a serious gap.
Good luck find a job in a better workplace. On the upside the care sector is crying out for workers and you've been there a short enough time you can miss it off your CV in future without having a serious gap.
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Soldato
Yeah, sounds like a horrible place to work if you're going to have to watch your back all the time. You may have dodged a bullet. I'd try and stay in the job just long enough to continue to be paid, then bail out as soon as you have a new job.
Soldato
That sucks OP. Getting out before being pushed out always looks better on your CV.
Associate
Potentially write them to the tone of how you have above? You seem to be well written and it might be a good way of getting your side of it over to them to counter her little box of evidence?