Soldato
That job's done IMO, even if they keep you on. Plenty of work in that sector so move on, and keep things super proffessional at the next place, now you've seen what can happen when nasty people are involved.
Can they sack me?
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Frankly sounds like you have a significant lack of judgement and self-awareness in an industry where it is relatively important to the role and you've an uphill battle ahead of you even if no malice was meant on your part. You'll also need to stick to your guns as to there being no intention of malice on your part, even if it means being somewhat confrontational (because being timid in that respect will be seen as accepting guilt on your part).
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Soldato
Indeed.
The people you work with are not your friends and not entering into discussions that are directly related to your role and tasking is the way to go.
Damn,
It's sort of what I said earlier: you went in there, and a whole load of other stuff came out - at which point, it turns into a horrid game of having to try to disprove everything that's been said - when you can't, because it's all hearsay.
But from their point of view, a complaint has been made - so they have to make an awkward decision of upholding it, or not.
From what you've said in that scenario - I echo @Uther the job is done, gtfo and put it behind you.
Yeah, that might be worth a bash.
I have a friend who works in a higher risk care environment. And what goes on there (inter team physical relationships) it sounds like a case of most of the workers should be in care. So if it's anything like that I can completely understand how grudges are formed.
Definitely get looking for new job. As others have said, staying low untenable even if you aren't pushed.
Definitely get looking for new job. As others have said, staying low untenable even if you aren't pushed.
I think you're right. The mistake I made was not going to the deputy manager to ask if this is appropriate. Instead I mentioned in to a couple of people in the staff room. They said that the guy in question used to have escorts visit him in his house on site and that staff would sometimes have to clean up after them the next morning when the day-shiift came in. This coming from, shock-horror: the woman who has done all the complaining.
I should have gone to management. My bad on that one.
You have less than two years service*? Then be aware they might just decide that "it's not working out" and terminate your contract - as long as they paid your contractual notice and any other owned monies they are fine. They don't even have to give you a written reason.
* Unless you are in NI.
* Unless you are in NI.
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This is probably what counts against our OP the most; all management know is that a new employee has had a multi-part complaint made against them. Difficult, from their point of view, to argue that it's worth the risk of finding out whether or not the new hire is actually going to be worth it or is just going to be an on-going problem that should be nipped in the bud.
Yeah, I'm a manager myself (technical manager, but I do have management responsibilities) and I dread the day I have to deal with something like this.
That "woman" sounds like a right piece of mud.
Again this is based on your comments etc etc but yeah.
I'd move on and find a new job, let the company keep scum like that.
Also in regards to the lift home etc etc, its a tough call because no one wants to leave a 20 something yr old to find their own way home, but at the same time, dont take the job if you cannot commit to the work hours/expectations (see the thread titled: "Opinion: Started job but can’t afford to travel to office"). But again, weak mentalities get defended these days which makes zero sense.
Lets cater to the ones who wont ever work hard for us, leave us immediately for more money, result in HR nonsense etc etc
Again this is based on your comments etc etc but yeah.
I'd move on and find a new job, let the company keep scum like that.
Also in regards to the lift home etc etc, its a tough call because no one wants to leave a 20 something yr old to find their own way home, but at the same time, dont take the job if you cannot commit to the work hours/expectations (see the thread titled: "Opinion: Started job but can’t afford to travel to office"). But again, weak mentalities get defended these days which makes zero sense.
Lets cater to the ones who wont ever work hard for us, leave us immediately for more money, result in HR nonsense etc etc
Unless you've got a good manager(s) they'll likely just do whatever is easiest for them to get the problem gone, only caring that they can, never asking if they should. Which is usually to get rid of the person who'll go quietest.
Tell me about it!
"Bring your whole self to work" they said "Everyone will be happier and more productive if they don't have to hide who they are".
Turns out that suddenly doesn't apply once they realise that the real you is a foul mouthed racist...
Soldato
What a vile manipulative little *****. Some people just seem to feel the need to create drama all around them 
Look on the bright side, she's probably going to end up a bitter and lonely old spinster, whilst you come across as relatively decent (if a little naive!).
Got to agree with the others though. Cut your losses and get out while you don't have too much invested. You'll have to be forever watching every little thing you say otherwise
Look on the bright side, she's probably going to end up a bitter and lonely old spinster, whilst you come across as relatively decent (if a little naive!).
Got to agree with the others though. Cut your losses and get out while you don't have too much invested. You'll have to be forever watching every little thing you say otherwise
Soldato
He works for Hamas that’s the problem…
You’re implying I’m a foul mouthed racist?
With no sense of humour.
Reminds me of two instances I've seen people being fired for being too verbally or physically familiar.
It was definitely a minority view that they were doing anything harmful but when written up and dumped in front of HR it gets pigeonholed into are you inconsiderate or a weirdo, either way, that's the door.
Come to think of it, the complainants aren't around either anymore.
It was definitely a minority view that they were doing anything harmful but when written up and dumped in front of HR it gets pigeonholed into are you inconsiderate or a weirdo, either way, that's the door.
Come to think of it, the complainants aren't around either anymore.
Soldato
and your reply should have been 'it was her words and her offer - if she didn't want to feel uncomfortable then maybe she shouldn't have made an offer that could have been misconstrued as offering sexual favours for the lift home. she should count herself lucky i jumped in to offer in order to save her further embarrasement or awkwardness'
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Soldato
Yeah I didn't really get that either, she made a comment that made her feel like she could be taken advantage of, after she had failed to make her own travel arrangements.
For most of this I would really just reply that it's hearsay and what evidence is there to back up what was said by anyone, about anything? it's he said she said.
They can boot you out for really any reason at all though if you've not been there for long.