Canadian Grand Prix 2011, Circuit Gilles Villeneuve - Race 7/19

So you what time trailing, that is not racing. Dirty air is more or less solved this year anyway and can be further improved.

WANT? please at least check your replies before submitting them?

How is dirty air solved exactly?

Stupid comment, they all build to same rules, f1 is 70% car weighted and as it should be.

F1 is racing and you can get the spectacle without removing the racing. In fact fia already have solved the problem by 50% in one simple rule change.

Building to the same rules does not change the fact that the following car has a MASSIVE disdvantage in most areas of the track, and areodynamics of a car can be designed specifically (and probably are) to massively disrupt the airflow to any car following closely.

Yeah we have seen cars that have been built to the same rules in the past and how "interpretations" of those rules have either given a car dominance or penalties midway through a season. Exhaust system overun is one example now.

F1 these days is a shadow of what it was in the past, DRS might not be perfect but it has brought back some excitement to a dying sport, even the FIA saw this.

Seriously, you have been whining about DRS now for too long, you need to get over it and change the record.
 
It's solved by double diffuser ban, the following gap is now down to 0.5seconds. It is not a huge disadvantage at all, more than close enough for a slipstream.
 
It's solved by double diffuser ban, the following gap is now down to 0.5seconds. It is not a huge disadvantage at all, more than close enough for a slipstream.

That solves the disrupted airflow over a front wing during a fast corner does it?

Clueless springs to mind, half a second is 45 metres at 200mph how is that close enough for a slipstream?
 
That solves the disrupted airflow over a front wing during a fast corner does it?

Clueless springs to mind, half a second is 45 metres at 200mph how is that close enough for a slipstream?

:rolleyes: at 200 coming out of a corner, that's some exit speed.
There has always been dirty air. Every time you punch something through air, you create dirty air. It's nothing new in f1 it's just since the mid 90s it's been getting worse and worse, till the last couple of years, where they have reduced it and with double diffuser ban, they halved it in one swoop.
 
It can't be argued either. Way. It doesn't matter if it's. On all cars, only one car can use it, the one behind.

Doesn't that break the fundamental that the car in front becomes the car behind the next lap? Then they can just repay the favour?

I know you aren't a fan of it, but I don't think we have enough evidence or experience using it to denounce it after every race as the Beelzebub of racing and falsifier of results. If we had topsy turvy results then I would say there is a proper error in its implementation, but the fast cars still win and the slow cars still lose, it just provides extra opportunities across the field.
 
Good race good result long wait...

As an aside AcidHell2 I wish you wouldn't post using your crApple product as it makes out your a 7 year old with it's autocorrect "feature"
 
Good race good result long wait...

As an aside AcidHell2 I wish you wouldn't post using your crApple product as it makes out your a 7 year old with it's autocorrect "feature"

Trust me it's no better on a pc. Rather than auto correct, it's just eligible instead.
 
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:rolleyes: at 200 coming out of a corner, that's some exit speed.
There has always been dirty air. Every time you punch something through air, you create dirty air. It's nothing new in f1 it's just since the mid 90s it's been getting worse and worse, till the last couple of years, where they have reduced it and with double diffuser ban, they halved it in one swoop.

Again what you fail to realise is that with all the regulation changes overtaking has become much more idifficult, and DRS is meant to counter those reg changes. Dirty air has zero impact on a normal car, an F1 car needs clean air for corner grip, it loses masses of downforce in corners when following closely and were it not for the impact of dirty air, they could be racing as close as bikes in motogp/WSB etc.

You can rolleyes all you like but half a second is half a second, that is half a second before you the guy in front gets on the throttle, even at 100mph which is normal on MANY corners on the f1 circuit it is still 23 odd metres in front, that is a long distance when the guy in front has got on the throttle first. Half a second is an eternity in a laptime and means you need more than half a second a lap advantage to pass. DRS gives that edge to make up for that 0.5 second penalty which only cars that rely on positive downforce suffer from.

You CONTINUALLY fail to acknowledge that the driver that passed does not have DRS on the next lap and the driver that was passed does, so it becomes completely fair.
 
No action taken by stewards over Button/Alonso collision.

Still leaves the Button/Hamilton incident

Well that's one bullet dodged, let's hope for same outcome. I can't see them penalising that incident and not Alonsos one.

I don't fail to acknowledge it, I've acknowledged it several times. It's an over take button pure and simple. It's not racing and never can be. Dirty air is no longer such a problem as you make it out to be and can be improved even more. We have seen time and again this season, cars literally under each others gear boxes, despite 0.5sec average and not in DRS zone. Overtaking shouldn't and doesn't need to be a breeze.
 
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