Canadian Grand Prix 2011, Circuit Gilles Villeneuve - Race 7/19

I think the problem with the DRS in Canada is that there are two zones near each other but only one activation marker, so the passing car can open up a gap straight after the final chicane as well.
 
Lee McKenzie (fit btw!) has just tweeted that the stewards heave decided to take no action over the JB FA racing incident and therefore the result stands! :D
 
AcidHell2 said:
Only two letters out close enough. People have been complaining about my writing and typing since I started school.
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I wouldn't worry about it mate.

Short explanation of EBD for those who are still a little confused from a little earlier this (evening/morning?). Set engine mode to burn extra fuel. Extra fuel releases extra gas, the extra exhaust gas is released to flow through (technically under) the diffuser. This creates extra downforce at the rear. This gives the car extra grip exiting the corner when on throttle. This was hypothesised as a reason Hamilton was stuck behind vettel at Barcelona, partially because vettel was able to run an engine map giving him more rear grip and secondly because the RedBull supposedly has a very efficient EBD. Second part of this thing is that this is why some would argue RedBull have such a qualifying to race pace discrepancy - in qualifying you can use an engine map that disregards fuel consumption in favor of both power and crucially excess gases to create that great rear end grip of the RedBull out of the corners.
 
AcidHell2 said:
It has at some races and at the other races it's useless and we still have overtaking.
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Trust me, overtaking is NEVER a pushbutton affair, DRS just adds some straightline speed which then has to be scrubbed off at the corner, requiring earlier braking (not breaking ;)) so results in more dicing, 2 cars abreast in a croner etc etc.

The big problem at Canada was double DRS to my mind and that was farcical as it could be used once you were past.
 
Pleased about the lack of penalties in those conditions, only one I thought might go against him was the alonso one.

Pretty much all of the others where non events.
 
Dr Who said:
Trust me, overtaking is NEVER a pushbutton affair, DRS just adds some straightline speed which then has to be scrubbed off at the corner, requiring earlier braking (not breaking ;)) so results in more dicing, 2 cars abreast in a croner etc etc.

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Re watch the race, it most certainly was a push button, drove clear around and back on racing line before the breaking zone in several cases. Only when coming from further back was it into the braking zone. As with MSC and Webber, as the Mercedes had great traction and pulled a lead before DRS kicked in. Compare that to JB on MSC where the Mclaren traction was comparable and it was a clean drive around.
 
Flibster said:
Yet they still gave Di Resta a drive through for hitting Heidfeld(? iirc) and knocking off his own front wing.
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Yeah forgot about that one, I always find those double dose type penalties odd.

I hope to god that boy gets snapped up quickly and doesn't have to spend too long ala kubica waiting for a top line drive to open up.

Red Bull should send Webber off to retire and get his services for next year.
 
AcidHell2 said:
Re watch the race, it most certainly was a push button and drove clear around and back on racing line before the breaking zone in several cases, only when coming from further back was it into the braking zone, as with MSC and webber as the mercedes had great traction and pulled a lead before DRS kicked in. Compare that to JB on MSC where the mclaren traction was comparable and it was a clean drive around.
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Sorry but DRS may have been a deciding factor, but it was not the only factor that allowed a pass, without seeing side by side telemetry we will never know, but some of us will just assume.
 
Man that would be amazing or even Ferrari. However he doesn't have much hope.
Mclarens sealed off and Ferrari/RBR have a clear number 1 driver for years to come. Unless another car like mercedes comes good, I don't have much faith in Diresta getting a good drive, where he can thrive.
 
Dr Who said:
Sorry but DRS may have been a deciding factor, but it was not the only factor that allowed a pass, without seeing side by side telemetry we will never know, but some of us will just assume.
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Of course it was a deciding factor,in a lot of passes it was pretty much the only factor. You just need to watch the video of the closing speeds once the wing pops open. It's clear as day. Even the commentators were saying it and drivers.
 
Locky said:
Iz it cus I Iz black innit comments looking like they may have truth behind them, I don't know.
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Purely down to the conditions, had that been a dry race Button would have got a penalty like Hamilton did.

In the dry I think Button would have seen him coming. Plus you have to take into account how hard the teams push for a penalty, when it's team mates Mclaren are hardly likely to be applying pressure in comparison to a Ferrari/Mclaren incident.

In the dry Button would have got some sort of penalty, still Button held his hands up afterwards and admitted he didn't see him coming, I'm not so sure Hamitlon would apologise and admit an error so easily. He'd blame the team for tyre strategy ;)
 
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