Canadian Grand Prix 2011, Circuit Gilles Villeneuve - Race 7/19

Mike_P said:
Snag is with Mclaren's supposedly bigger 'wet' wing is how much (if) they've had to shorten 7th gear, if it's dry they're going to have problems on the straights, both being passed and trying to pass.
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If it is dry they are going to be sitting ducks - even McLaren have admitted this. If wet, they are in good shape to win the race.
 
Interesting rumour about the engine mapping. Advanced engine mapping will be heavilly restricted and no changes of engine mapping between Q3 and the race.

When they normally have a special map for the start of the race that they use for 60 seconds or so, will that exclude that from happening?
 
realscot said:
I thought hamliton said they had a long 7th gear which would help when in a toe? I know one of the onboards with lewis i thought he'd backed off along the final straight as the engine didn't sound like it was near the top end bouncing off the limiter as almost everyone elses was, yet he crossed the line just 2 tenths off whoever was fastest at the time.

My moneys on alonso for getting into the first corner first.
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With no DRS allowed during a wet race that 7th gear might help them make passes on the straights if it is indeed wet.
 
NathanE said:
The McLaren result was expected TBH. Their DRS is pretty much confirmed now to be crap compared to RBR / Ferrari / Mercedes. It doesn't shed enough drag on the long Canadian straights.

If McLaren could sort out their DRS to be as good as their rivals they'd have a winning car. Problem is I suspect the whole DRS thing is tightly integrated with the majority of the rear end aero design! So not an easy task to change it now...
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Wouldnt McLaren be using the Mercedes DRS - which is meant to be the best system in the pitlane?(After all they buy the engine and the KERS from them already)
 
I don't think McLaren have done a wet setup. It's BS. They just weren't quick enough.

All of their "possible gains" from having a wet setup would be undone by the great unknown that is the Pirelli wet tyres. If it is a wet race then it's going to come down whose car uses the wet tyres best, being on the right tyre at the right time / strategy, etc etc. The gains from being a tad quicker in acceleration and braking zones on a high wing setup can be wiped out instantly just by a rain shower starting the very moment you've passed the pit entry and are committed to another lap but your rivals behind haven't...
 
Todge said:
With no DRS allowed during a wet race that 7th gear might help them make passes on the straights if it is indeed wet.
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In the wet, the top speed is generally lower, meaning that a shorter 7th gear is preferable. No DRS will accentuate the need for a shorter 7th gear.

In the dry, with DRS, you want a long 7th gear.
 
FrankJH said:
Wouldnt McLaren be using the Mercedes DRS - which is meant to be the best system in the pitlane?(After all they buy the engine and the KERS from them already)
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Eh? No way! The DRS is the whole rear wing design with some hydraulic piston to move the flap. That is 100% totally going to be designed by each respective team. Even the budget teams will design their own.
 
I fancy Massa to cause a Ferrari upset here at the start. He seemed to be comfortable at the pace yesterday and tends to make better starts than Alonso. How long he can maintain the pace for might ruin a few peoples races early on.

I'm still going for a Vettel win. What a glorious run to the title Vettel is having. Even he can't be able to believe his luck. Even if a Ferrari wins and he gets on the podium so what, there's no consistent challenger, what an easy romp to the title that makes it.

Not even Webber to give him much fight this year. I do laugh how convienient the whole sorry mark you have no Kers again at this critical stage of the weekend. I'm sure it's not on purpose but at times it does seem too convienient:D

Then again if I was Horner and struggling to get a reliable Kers system all the bench testing would be carried out on Webbers car.
 
FrankJH said:
Wouldnt McLaren be using the Mercedes DRS - which is meant to be the best system in the pitlane?(After all they buy the engine and the KERS from them already)
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Isn't the system supplied from Zytek and not Mercedes?

At a guess I imagine Mercedes used to pay Zytek for developement and now they either joint pay or fund their own from Zytek?

I read something recently that said they don't have the same system as each other but for the life of me I can't find it.
 
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