Census 2021

[theone8181]

Definitely been asked about religion in other places.

And ive been asked what my gender is on every application ive ever made. HMRC will surely know I am male. Gender identity is irrelevant. Does a male who thinks they are female need different local services?

Need more mental health help imo.

 

[sigma]

Just filled it out because I'm not a fragile man-baby.

 

[sigma]

Definitely been asked about religion in other places.

And ive been asked what my gender is on every application ive ever made. HMRC will surely know I am male. Gender identity is irrelevant. Does a male who thinks they are female need different local services?

Gender is optional as is religion.

 

[Duke]

I just can't be arsed.

In time it took to post eight times in this thread alone you could have filled it in.

 

[Blackjack Davy]

I filled it in online only to have this huge great envelope land on my doormat the next day. Won't someone think of the planet!

I thought I'd lost the form but it turns out it was only the notification letter I'd lost.

 

[GIBURROWS]

In time it took to post eight times in this thread alone you could have filled it in.

But why?

 

[Basher]

But why?

Why not?

 

[Feek]

But why?

Because the law says you have to and if you don't, they'll come knocking on your door to find out why. This is not speculation.

but I'm sure there will be plenty by people who think they're too important and that this is a breach of their human rights or some other such garbage.

I rest my case.

 

[LoadsaMoney]

Gona get mine done this week, gah

 

[Em3bbs]

To me it's like if you tell me to do something, why would I do it? Just because it's the council or government is no different to me.

 

[Deleted member 77746]

But why?

That's been explained in this thread over and over, read the 16 pages you dingbat.

 

[Muban]

I was wondering why I hadn’t had anything yet after seeing this thread started a while back. Oh, only for England and Wales, Scotland has delayed the census until 2022 (this has probably been mentioned already but I haven’t read all 16 pages of this thread ). When the time comes I’ll fill it in though, because anything that is on there I’m fine with the government knowing.

 

[GIBURROWS]

I really am.

 

[spidiweb7]

If i estimated it took 5 minutes to fill in i think that'd be an overestimate. I'm sure the last census was more in depth than this one?

 

[Basher]

I really am.

Everyone is on the internet.

 

[Werewolf]

Before there was tonnes of data about all of us all over the place.

Why not link together:

• HMRC systems
• Local government systems
• GP/hospital records
• School systems

Then they would have all the data they're asking for in the census and more.

Because you'd end up with duplicated data, out dated data, and missing data.

The whole idea of a census is that it gives an accurate snapshot of the population at a specific time so you shouldn't be getting Mr Smith counted twice because two different systems have him down slightly differently, or you end up having to try and work out which data from which system is actually correct at the specific time which is a mammoth task.

Also a lot of the other systems have highly sensitive information on them, so you ideally never link them together more than you absolutely need to for data protection reasons...

To give an idea, my brother in law found he wasn't registered at his GP, apparently he'd not been for long enough they'd removed him, whilst there are accounts of people who've died still being on a GP's register years later because the GP hadn't been informed.
HRMC is usually working at least a month, sometimes up to a year out of date, the hospital records don't necessarily show where you are living at the moment or at all if you've not needed a hospital visit for a number of years so the hospital and your GP might have different records neither of which may be correct for where you actually are.

It's also worth remembering that many government systems don't ask where you are living, just where you can be contacted because people like students might be living at one end of the country but still going "home" to the parents over the holidays.

The Census gets all sorts of information together in a fairly cheap way, probably far cheaper than linking the other systems, let alone linking them securely and then working out what data is accurate when you've got conflicting information, and gets information you don't necessarily get on the other systems - I'm not sure which government system would actually know everyone's specific job, HMRC might know your income but that doesn't help with things like working out if certain jobs are increasing, decreasing, disappeared or are new (and if need be work out if support is needed to keep skills alive).

 

[Vanquish-Storm]

Kept timing out for me...

Just another case of someone wanting all your information again

 

[Martynt74]

Out of interest, (and i'm sure it's been asked if i read back ), how come you're all doing it now when it says to do it on or shortly after the 21st?

 

[Deleted member 77746]

Out of interest, (and i'm sure it's been asked if i read back ), how come you're all doing it now when it says to do it on or shortly after the 21st?

What's it matter when you do it if the house holds don't change at all?

 

[Feek]

Out of interest, (and i'm sure it's been asked if i read back ), how come you're all doing it now when it says to do it on or shortly after the 21st?

Yes, it's been asked and answered

Generally, people know where they're going to be (this is especially appropriate at the moment) but it also says that you can do it now and then amend it later if there are any changes.