If it helps you to sleep, they can do on non-EVs too.
Challenging a speed camera ticket due to no "change of speed" sign
- Thread starter SheffMan
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I must be really stupid here because I don't understand how having an accurate speedo would cause you to get a speeding ticket.
Most people who know about cars (which I assume is everyone on a forum called "Overclockers" ? ) know that speedos read fast so they can go a bit faster then their speedo is reporting and still be under the limit.
But you calibrated it so you knew it was accurate.
He also claims he knows how to determine if he's in a 30 limit but recent evidence suggests otherwise
I forgot... I had been driving for 30 years and the knowledge that speedos all read 5 to 10% fast was deeply embedded in my sub conscious.
I did the job on the instrument binnacle in Jun 2019 and got my ticket about 4 weeks later.....
If you mean :He also claims he knows how to determine if he's in a 30 limit but recent evidence suggests otherwise
He also claims he [always] knows how to determine if he's in a 30 limit but recent evidence suggests otherwise
I never said that, quite the opposite in fact. I said it is difficult to always know what the limit is and it is getting more difficult all the time. The evidence backs me up :
There were almost 2.7 million motoring offences, excluding data from the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS), recorded in 2023, an increase of 11% compared with the previous year (2.4 million), and the highest recorded since comparable records began in 2011.
More than four-fifths (86%) of recorded motoring offences were for speeding (2.3 million), up 10% on the previous year (2.1 million) and the highest recorded since 2011.
Between 2011 and 2023, the number of speed limit offences increased at a faster rate than the amount of road traffic in Great Britain.
I wonder what that graph would look like in a few years time if all speed cameras were made to display the speed limit right next to the speed camera, preferably painted on the road just in front of it.
Actually I would put £1000 on it that the numbers would start dropping, possibly hugely.
Now, if speed cameras really are there "not to catch drivers out but slow then down in a high accident area" then there is no argument for NOT having said speed limit signs at camera sites.
That doesn't prove anything other than the number of speeding offences going up. It doesn't include any data relating to the reason for the offence. Some will of course be people not knowing what the speed limit is, and others will be people knowing what the limit is and choosing to ignore it assuming they won't get caught. There is also no information about the number of cameras in use.
I think it is becoming more and more difficult to be certain what the speed limit as at all times, but you don't.
We'll just have to agree to disagree then.
It's easier now than it's ever been.
Cars which tell you the speed limit.
Navigation apps which show the current speed limit.
More and more signs which say there are cameras ahead and very often with associated speed limits.
What about people who do not have a car that does that, or a Smart phone for that matter. Why should ones likelihood of getting prosecuted be dependent on which technology one has ? That's patently unjust !
As for the speed camera signs if they had them only in the immediate vicinity of speed cameras and they had the speed limit in force at that location then yes that'd be a step in the right direction. But in reality they have them where there are no speed cameras (certainly round where we live), and so many of them that one stops even noticing them, as we all know.
I just want to clarify again that I am not against all speed cameras, I am only anti speed cameras if the speed limit is unclear in the area, something easily rectified if the "powers that be" actually had the will to do that.
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What I tend to do is look at the signs and adjust my speed to match the sign.
Prejudice against blind people all these signs!
If you mean :
He also claims he [always] knows how to determine if he's in a 30 limit but recent evidence suggests otherwise
I never said that, quite the opposite in fact. I said it is difficult to always know what the limit is and it is getting more difficult all the time. The evidence backs me up :
There were almost 2.7 million motoring offences, excluding data from the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS), recorded in 2023, an increase of 11% compared with the previous year (2.4 million), and the highest recorded since comparable records began in 2011.
More than four-fifths (86%) of recorded motoring offences were for speeding (2.3 million), up 10% on the previous year (2.1 million) and the highest recorded since 2011.
Between 2011 and 2023, the number of speed limit offences increased at a faster rate than the amount of road traffic in Great Britain.
I wonder what that graph would look like in a few years time if all speed cameras were made to display the speed limit right next to the speed camera, preferably painted on the road just in front of it.
Actually I would put £1000 on it that the numbers would start dropping, possibly hugely.
Now, if speed cameras really are there "not to catch drivers out but slow then down in a high accident area" then there is no argument for NOT having said speed limit signs at camera sites.
Only going up because they keep lowering limits, often in places where they don't need to. When you drop a 60 to a 40 in a long, open, rural road then of course people are going to speed more. It's almost like a setup to generate money...
Then we have the
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Its just a tax on the stupid really
Yea a bit like the TV licence.
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