I'm saying that they're benefiting from a community perk without participating in the community anymore. If you want the benefits, then be involved, give and take. I use the word leeching very deliberately as it accurately describes the behaviour. If the use of the term is upsetting to people, I guess it's touching a nerve.This is the bit I don't get: are you saying that people that are selling stuff on MM are somehow, I don't know, running a business or something, and should be punished? You use the word "leeching" which is an extremely derogatory term. This says a lot about the thinking behind this decision. In reality, the people that *buy* the stuff on MM are benefitting just as much as the sellers, so 100% the community is benefitting from this! People in MM aren't selling garden hoses, are they? They're buying and selling nerdy stuff, for nerds! This is good! It's also *great* for the environment (recycling rather than binning). And finally, you're keeping money out of ebay's pockets -- how is that a bad thing!?
I think what I'm so riled up about is that nobody has yet explained why this change is needed. "It automatically enforces a rule that has existed for ages" -- well maybe it's a bad rule!?
And by the way, before I get the derogatory replies, this affects me in the tiniest of ways (I've sold maybe 4-5 things over 10 years, netting maybe £200). I'm upset at the personal level, as I feel like I'm being kicked out of a community that I have been in for a long time and feel personally connected to.
In my opinion you are alienating some of your most long-running and loyal members with this rule enforcement, and nothing good will come of it!
Fair enough, at least that's blatantly clear. Weird how I managed to feel connected to this community without <checks notes> posting an average of at least 15 posts per <checks notes> 90 days...What real harm comes to the forum from alienating members that are so long standing and loyal that they barely ever post? Oh no, they'll still barely ever post.
You literally average 15 posts per month - who are you simping for?Fair enough, at least that's blatantly clear. Weird how I managed to feel connected to this community without <checks notes> posting an average of at least 15 posts per <checks notes> 90 days...
No one is stopping you from feeling connected to the community by reading posts and contributing once in a while, you just don't get all the same perks as more active community members. Unless the "connection" you talk of is more about having nice marketplace to use.Fair enough, at least that's blatantly clear. Weird how I managed to feel connected to this community without <checks notes> posting an average of at least 15 posts per <checks notes> 90 days...
If the thread from August wasn't enough warning, that's on you really.
No need for that attitude, tbhYou’ve had over three months notice about this. We deliberately gave members that amount of notice so that everyone is aware.
It’s not our fault you didn’t read that huge notice that’s been at the top of every MM forum since 21st August last year.
It's been permanently visible in the members market for months, if you're so inactive that you've not even been in there and seen it, what is there to even complain about?The entire point of it is that people aren’t as active as they’d like…. So assuming they’re active enough to see the thread seems pretty flawed
So who's fault is it that you didn't read the thread?No need for that attitude, tbh
And the entire point of this conversation is that we’re talking about people who haven’t been active? Yet your response is “well you should have been active”So who's fault is it that you didn't read the thread?
The thread that's a sticky at the top of the For Sale forum and your attention is drawn to it by this notice which has been there for over three months.
Wondered how long it would be before someone played the "do you know how much I spend here" card.Frankly I’ll just go shop elsewhere if I’m going to be met with this derision from you and others for stating an opinion. I’ve been both a customer (dozens of orders totalling probably £10k+) and a Forum member (2250 posts) for 10-15 years, strangely enough no I don’t sit here posting constantly after that length of time
And the entire point of this conversation is that we’re talking about people who haven’t been active? Yet your response is “well you should have been active”
Where was the email to members? The PM? The notification in the inbox? The automated message when they next post in the forum?
None of that is difficult to do nor unreasonable to ask for