Change to MM access after 1st January 2024

[Feek]

2 posts last year and what a surprise only in the MM... sorry but perfect example of the rule working as intended

Also, this is his first post outside MM since 2015.

 

[Griffo]

Like it. Understand it. Wish there'd been this level of uproar when the council started charging for collecting the garden waste.

 

[Malt_Vinegar]

So MM access is unilaterally removed. You wouldn't know this was pending unless you had visited the MM and seen the notification. Now it's gone, and a poorly-written first post here says 15 posts in other areas outside MM over a 90 day rolling period in order to retain access.

MM access is removed if you fall outside of the 90 days 15 posts boundary.

Further down it states that this requirement is to restore access.

Yes, when you come back into the 15 posts over 90 days, its restored

So which is it? Do people have to keep posting to maintain access? A 15 posts per 90-day period running total?

Yes, they do, if they stop, they lose it, if they resume to the required level, they get it back.

OCUK, it states, is a community and by enforcing this they are making sure we contribute.

Yes, this statement is accurate

This is a first for OCUK isn't it? For that matter, the first time I've seen this kind of behaviour online.

Yes, this is a first for us, I cannot speak for anywhere else.

 

[MrRockliffe]

Curious how it would "Reduce bad sales" how?

I think @Feek, or another admin team has mentioned before that a significant number (paraphrasing here) of bad sales are from members who have not participated/contributed to the forum sufficiently.


Hence by automatically revoking their access, they hope to reduce the number of these users selling items.


Some, of course, will post more regularly, but this may also reduce the likelihood of them scamming/poor comms.




I am getting fed up with this entitlement and whingey attitude though (not aimed at you).


The mods are being pro active and trying something. If you don’t like it, tough.


It is literally 15 posts every 90 days for goodness sake.

 

[shiver]

Do whinging posts in this thread also count towards to the 15 posts?

Can confirm the automatic restoration of access works in good time, I found out I was about 13 posts in last 90days and it came back in a very short time

 

[mk17]

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Hence by automatically revoking their access, they hope to reduce the number of these users selling items.


Some, of course, will post more regularly, but this may also reduce the likelihood of them scamming/poor comms.
...

This probably makes the most sense. Cutting out scallywags who are only here for the MM access.

 

[Armageus]

It is literally 15 posts every 90 days for goodness sake.

It took a good while for this requirement to be decided on (there were thoughts of it being higher!), but judging by some of the reactions here, even if we'd set it at 1 post a year it would still be too high a bar

 

[MrRockliffe]

It took a good while for this requirement to be decided on (there were thoughts of it being higher!), but judging by some of the reactions here, even if we'd set it at 1 post a year it would still be too high a bar

Moaners will moan

 

[ci_newman]

A sensless move, was very active in my overclocking days years ago but do other things now. Still occaisionally buy stuff from the MM for me, my kids and grandson encouraging them into computers, gaming etc. At the end of the day members want or need to sell their used items to buy new, and that ability has been reduced what ever way you look at it.

It wasn't a senseless move.

Your last post outside of the MM was in 2015, 9 years ago. Why should you continue to enjoy the benefits of a community resource?

 

[Tephnos]

There are a lot of posts I'm not going to shift through, so I'll just ask: why are you restricting MM in this fashion now? Were inactives generally causing more problems? Do you just not like the feeling of someone who used to be active continuing to use a community resource?

 

[labbby]

The threat that keeps on giving

 

[sigma]

It wasn't a senseless move.

Your last post outside of the MM was in 2015, 9 years ago. Why should you continue to enjoy the benefits of a community resource?

Victim mindset. It's a personal attack on them.

 

[tom_e]

There are a lot of posts I'm not going to shift through, so I'll just ask: why are you restricting MM in this fashion now? Were inactives generally causing more problems? Do you just not like the feeling of someone who used to be active continuing to use a community resource?

You just need to read the first 5 lines of the OP.

 

[sigma]

The threat that keeps on giving

People do literally see it as a threat!

 

[sigma]

I've already noticed an increase in posting in the other sub forums. Genuine posts, not spam.

Isn't spam also moderated anyway?

Shock as forum that offers a service to members requires members to participate...

 

[Malt_Vinegar]

There are a lot of posts I'm not going to shift through, so I'll just ask: why are you restricting MM in this fashion now? Were inactives generally causing more problems? Do you just not like the feeling of someone who used to be active continuing to use a community resource?

Well, lets spoon feed it for you

Yes, we found inactive members were more likely to be involved in problematic transactions. We are also simply automating the existing rules in a new way to reduce the burden of, increase efficiency of, and consistency of moderation actions.

 

[sigma]

How many people who are upset about this also voted to change the Christmas pud? There must be a link.

 

[danielanthony]

Is there a quality bar on the 15 posts? Does this post meet that bar?

1/15

 

[Tephnos]

Well, lets spoon feed it for you

Yes, we found inactive members were more likely to be involved in problematic transactions. We are also simply automating the existing rules in a new way to reduce the burden of, increase efficiency of, and consistency of moderation actions.

Got it, fair enough.

 

[Tephnos]

You just need to read the first 5 lines of the OP.

That gives zero reason why they're changing anything, just that they are.