Channel 4 - Skint

krooton said:
It's like the knead to have more sprogs to get more cash, so they can continue to loaf about, never having to rise early and roll out of bed to earn any dough.

And they always look so crusty and half-baked from the weed they end up buying. :mad:
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Yes smart arse i have edited now.

Serves me right for typing while doing 2 other things.
 
Pestilence said:
After all, why bother getting up at the crack of dawn for a 30 minute bus ride to stack shelves somewhere for 9 hours, when you can lounge around and drink while being paid more?
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There is an Asda about 2 minutes walk from there. Tesco is about 5 minutes bus ride, which is also next to a few fast food places, and a shopping complex (B&Q/Next etc). College I went to is just up the road from there, with another just behind it. I cannot believe that there are no jobs near them!

I've not lived near there for a while (i grew up about 10 minutes from Scunthorpe), but because I know the place, find myself glued to it :D
 
robgmun said:
This is the one that made me the most angry

"I've only £4" Where the hell did the money go??? Maybe the reason is because you decked the house out with nice sofas and a huge TV, the whole house look way too nice!
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Saw this last night with the wife, and the first thing we both said when watching it was 'sell the TV, games console etc'. How on earth can they sit there and blame the government, when all they do is sit there and watch a 42' TV and play games. Go to cash converters FFS and get a loan out against the TV for a couple of weeks. Do something. Don't just bloody sit there and blame everyone but yourself.

And yes, we both said, the young girl that was in the shared house was the only one we really felt like she was in a situation and really wanted help to get out of, and she obviously did get the help in the end.
 
Out of curiosity, how would selling the TV & games console (two of the cheapest forms of entertainment available) for about 10% of it's original value to cash-converters solve anything?.

People of a certain age need to wake up & understand that a 42" TV isn't "big" any-more, it's bog standard & cheap.

I'm not saying they are not wasting money in other areas, but a TV & games console is the most efficient allocation of money (as they do have a discretionary allowance for entertainment) possible.
 
Isnt the xbox 360 and 50" plasma tv cliche out dated now considering anyone can walk into a high street store like britehouse and get anything they want for a retarded 500% APR ?

Im not justifying it.. im just saying for £10 a week for the rest of your human existence you can probably buy any appliances you wanted.

The worst thing these people can do is have more children.. no sane western couple has more than 3 children and can really expect to give them a decent upbringing.
 
Whilst sat watching the program all I could think was, this has been designed to raise
This exact kind of reaction. But weirdly I wasn’t sat there getting angrier and angrier, I was sat there thinking I am glad I am not in their position. They have no idea. For example the couple who got £1600 a month but had their benefits stopped and suddenly they were down to £4, No forward thinking or planning, just reliant on hand out after handout. They were complaining that the benefits had been stopped despite them “telling everyone he lives here, they all knew” I would put money on the reason being either a something else or b them not filling in the correct form or following the correct process somewhere along the line because they are too lazy.
Also to echo the thoughts of others here I did feel sorry for the 16YO, especially having a %$%^head boyfriend who couldn’t be arsed to even go to court to *try* and get his daughter back, just screamed at her with a very poor reason which I just interpreted as “I don’t actually want a child running my lazy layabout lifestyle, I don’t want to be responsible”.

I don’t completely blame these people though, it is easy for me to not have been bought up in this particular area and to judge them, they fall into a system and it is always difficult to get out of that, not impossible but difficult.
 
isnt the point of these shows to either:

a) outrage
b) feel good factor that you are not these people.
 
[unpopular idea] Perhaps benefits really need to be "earned" through work like removing graffiti and general local beautification, workhouse style cottage industry and community enriching activity organised by the thousands of civil servants who are also sat to f all meaningful perpetuating this benefit culture [/unpopular idea]

Inb4 "how will I find a job if I have to work for my benefits!!!1!" - How else does anyone employed find another job?

Inb4 "against human rights to force labor" I think I am "forced" to go to work, by money constraints rather than the government telling me to.

People need to learn to stand on their own feet
 
elmarko said:
Out of curiosity, how would selling the TV & games console (two of the cheapest forms of entertainment available) for about 10% of it's original value to cash-converters solve anything?.

People of a certain age need to wake up & understand that a 42" TV isn't "big" any-more, it's bog standard & cheap.

I'm not saying they are not wasting money in other areas, but a TV & games console is the most efficient allocation of money (as they do have a discretionary allowance for entertainment) possible.
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It might be cheap, and you are quite right, nothing there is out of the ordinary. However, it is a 'luxury' item. They are not neccessities. Tehy are not essentials. When did society go so wrong as to deem a big TV (and it is still big) and games console 'normal' when you are unemployed and on society hand-outs? Especially when you can't even afford to buy babies their milk.

But, if you had kids, and I am guessing you don't (sorry if I am wrong), you would understand that you would do anything necessary (within the law obv) to provide for those children. If that means selling something whilst times are hard, then needs be.

I have 3 children, live in an Housing Association house, and both me and other half work and get nothing (except child benefit) from the government. I was made redundant about 3 years ago when I had my second on the way. I went and got another job within a week (was lucky enough to do so). However the job, for a 2 year training period was much lower paid than my previous job. I sold my motorbike and various other things that were not a necessity to enable us to give a good quality of life to our children.
 
d_brennen said:
[unpopular idea] Perhaps benefits really need to be "earned" through work like removing graffiti and general local beautification, workhouse style cottage industry and community enriching activity organised by the thousands of civil servants who are also sat to f all meaningful perpetuating this benefit culture [/unpopular idea]

Inb4 "how will I find a job if I have to work for my benefits!!!1!" - How else does anyone employed find another job?

Inb4 "against human rights to force labor" I think I am "forced" to go to work, by money constraints rather than the government telling me to.

People need to learn to stand on their own feet
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Indeed. Nothing but entitlement complexes and ****lessness.
 
davejh666 said:
It might be cheap, and you are quite right, nothing there is out of the ordinary. However, it is a 'luxury' item. They are not neccessities. Tehy are not essentials. When did society go so wrong as to deem a big TV (and it is still big) and games console 'normal' when you are unemployed and on society hand-outs? Especially when you can't even afford to buy babies their milk.
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They might seem like extravagant items, but when you compare the up-front price against the ongoing rate-of-return in terms of entertainment, they are actually incredibly cost-efficient.

Second hand games/films are dirt cheap (or free if they know how to pirate), so the cost of an average family outing to the cinema for 2 hours entertainment could probably net 30+ hours from a tv and games console.

Can't expect them to go to a library and read a book, now can you? ;)
 
Theres 2 quick changes that would resolve a lot of stuff like this...


1. At least 50% of benefits to be paid in the form of food vouchers which can't be used for alcohol.

2. Mandatory 2 hours a week government created jobs (clear up the park etc). Something to instil the most basic notion of a routine.

"I'm not working 2 hours for free!"

You are not, you are effectively getting paid around £20 an hour and being given a house!
 
Agree with food vouchers.

I think they should have to work much more than 2 hours though. I would say make people who have been unemployed/claiming benefits for more than 6 months work 20 hours per week doing litter picking, clearing up graffiti etc in their local area. It might give them some pride in their community.
 
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