Chav parents feed kids fish and chips through gates

Freefaller · 16 Sep 2006 at 12:20

james.miller said:
come on now, most adults dont know that lol. That's the reason kids eat what they do these days

Ah well I guess it's just my background blinding my judgement a bit

I'm surprised really - it's a shame to let your kids down like that./

squiffy · 16 Sep 2006 at 12:24

The problem with "healthy" food is that it's usually more expensive and takes longer to prepare, and not that filling. Those on a low income can't afford it. Chips and beans is cheap and can be cooked in canteen quantities easily.

Unhealthy food isn't the problem, inactivity is. One on it's own doesn't cause a problem, but both will. I say our soceity is a problem, with the shut communities, teenagers staying inside more, people more paranoid/scared for their childrens safety (paedo's) I'm only 30 as well, never had these problems back in school.

Vanilla · 16 Sep 2006 at 12:26

fozzybear said:
It doesn't mean that the parents should continue to feed their kids the same carp though.

It doesn't mean they should be done for child abuse though. I'm willing to bet you're not a parent.

Junk food is all relative. A 'junk' lunch can still be part of a healthy diet. Just like MacDonalds.

Train the staff better. It's hardly rocket science cooking a few vegetables is it?

The problem is that if the kids have been brought up at home eating rubbish, then it's hard to wean them off this rubbish. The kids food preferences are almost set in stone in the first few years of their lives.

That's also a bit of a generalisation. On the flip side many kids are brought up at home eating good food and the 'junk' they serve at school is one of the few times they eat junk.

It's hard to ween kids off it because it tastes good and provides a lot of energy in the school day. Trying to replace that using a pork chop and some sweetcorn often fails.

I'm a firm believer that there is no such thing as junk food, just a junk diet. At school I think kids should be allowed to eat what they want. At home i'm in charge and I pick the food, GOOD FOOD. At school they can begin to make their own choices and decision just as I did when at school. We send kids to school to learn and devlop themselves to make their own choices, not be coddled by a Labour ban-fest.

Freefaller · 16 Sep 2006 at 12:26

squiffy said:
The problem with "healthy" food is that it's usually more expensive and takes longer to prepare, and not that filling. Those on a low income can't afford it. Chips and beans is cheap and can be cooked in canteen quantities easily.

Nonesense. I ate healthily at university (when one is supposed to be poor) and I spent less than my uni friends eating crap. Furthermore I was eating a fair bit to keep my bulk up as at the time I was playing rugby. I eat healthily now and my food bills aren't extorionate at all.

Unhealthy food isn't the problem, inactivity is. One on it's own doesn't cause a problem, but both will. I say our soceity is a problem, with the shut communities, teenagers staying inside more, people more paranoid/scared for their childrens safety (paedo's) I'm only 30 as well, never had these problems back in school.

Unhealthy food IS a problem. However I do agree that exercise and activity do also play an important role which is being ignored.

alexakasloth · 16 Sep 2006 at 12:29

wush said:
O RLY?

I like how it has to be junk food vs "salads".

Pasta > *

fozzybear · 16 Sep 2006 at 12:30

Vanilla said:
I'm willing to bet you're not a parent.

No, i'm not a parent. Good guess.

I don't need to be a parent to know that a healthy diet is helpful if not vital in a childs infant to teenage years.

squiffy said:
The problem with "healthy" food is that it's usually more expensive and takes longer to prepare

Try telling the Chinese that!

squiffy said:
Unhealthy food isn't the problem, inactivity is.

Unhealthy food leads to kids not having much energy therefore they will not do much exercise. They are very much linked.

squiffy · 16 Sep 2006 at 12:35

fozzybear said:
No, i'm not a parent. Good guess.

Unhealthy food leads to kids not having much energy therefore they will not do much exercise. They are very much linked.

Pretty sure most of the kids did run around in dinner time. But then if it's reduced to half a hour and PE lessons are reduced right down then it really doesn't matter as they're not doing as much exercise.

oh blame advertising and Mc Donalds as well, as FF is ingrained into our lifestyle, it's our fault. It's like mild brainwashing that FF is part of our culture.

Freefaller · 16 Sep 2006 at 12:48

We have McD's in France and unfortunately we have them now in Cyprus. My parents used to "treat" me and we went to McD's from time to time (if I was a good boy). However I always ate and enjoyed my veggies, salads and loved fruits as a child too. Yes I think culture is to blame. I think people are getting lazier and it's easy to cook pre-cooked frozen foods, and yes I think it is a weakining cultural influence. As I've always said everything in moderation... PEople seem to think moderation is every day though... People don't know how to cook either - which probably doesn't help - and in that case yes I have been a bit spoilt with my background. But it REALLY isn't that hard to whip something together healthily. And it doesn't all have to be rabbit food either.

james.miller · 16 Sep 2006 at 13:01

oh its definately a culture thing. you can normally trace most problems back to the home and their parents. I've been a believer for years than each generation id just paving the way for further ignorance and neglect. i've not been proved wrong so far - i see kids as young as 7-8 swaring in front of their parents and smoking...in front of their parents. It's no suprise that in light of this, diet is really a non-issue to these families. We're going down hill fast, i'm telling you :rolleyes:

Freefaller · 16 Sep 2006 at 13:03

I unfortunately think you're spot on... It is a sad state of affairs.

I'd never dream of swearing in front of my parents now let alone when I was in single figures. Then again I respect them.

inferno · 16 Sep 2006 at 13:13

If I were the HM I would kick the parent's children out of the school, simple as that!

Mr Mag00 · 16 Sep 2006 at 13:15

oh blame advertising and Mc Donalds as well, as FF is ingrained into our lifestyle,

as someone who works in the food industry, the nice side not the mega national Co side and education etc. the above statement is complete BS! and has made me furious.
By FF i assume you mean fast food. ingrained in to our culture!!!? I do not think so If you think culture is the last couple of decades, our culture is hundreds of year old you muppet!!! its the modern americans who no culture, with a country less than 300 years old. Its a failing of our culture that has led to this situation where fat chav women think feeding animals, i mean their children through a fence is acceptable. because they will not stand up to their children and say NO!!
Of course advertsing is partly to blame otherwise why would these companies spend somewhere in the region of 15% of their annual turnover on advertising if it didnt work. MaccyDs turnover of organic products and salalds is less than .05% yet they advertise their comitment BS!
its processed food at its worst 100s of different animals in each patty, which cooks from frozen in less than 45 seconds mmm quality. hydrogenated fats the worst! 50+ chemicals in strawberry thick shake, no milk no sign of fruit sugars. those sort of foods are simply killing a generation of children and young adults.

squiffy · 16 Sep 2006 at 13:24

Mr Mag00 said:
as someone who works in the food industry, the nice side not the mega national Co side and education etc. the above statement is complete BS! and has made me furious.
By FF i assume you mean fast food. ingrained in to our culture!!!? .

Try and deny

isn't part of our culture. It would be like saying Pasta isn't part of the Italians culture, or rice for the Chinese. I bet if scientists found pasta and rice unhealthy you wouldn't get those two countries cutting down on it.

btw I'm not a lard arse, never eat at Mc D's, do have 50/50 healthy/unhealthy food, 13 stone 5'8" so I'm ok.

Mr Mag00 · 16 Sep 2006 at 13:35

fish and chips is part of a culture if it only goes back to the late 18thC and also if cooked properly is no way to be considered fast food. Pasta was eaten by the ancient greeks and rice in china before the pyramids, now that is culture, if its pre cooked and kept warm all foods are fast foods. And im not aginst eating good food including burger and chips, and fish and chips all of which i make myself, not the manufactured batter with salts and sugars and hydrogenated fats included, but not everyday instead of a balanced diet and inactive fat **** lifestyle.

Azza · 16 Sep 2006 at 13:49

Treefrog said:
Maybe they should put up a sign saying "Please don't feed the animals"?

ROFl

"I have to question the morality of delivering it from the grounds of a cemetery."

LOL

Why dont they give 'em some sandwiches and an apple, and a drink, let 'em throw it done themselves and let them go and play footy or summin, or eat their sandwiches while playing footy. Its doin the kids no good gettin fish and chips off their parents, or sitting in a canteen for an hour doing nothing.

reflex · 16 Sep 2006 at 13:50

I can eat anything and not put on wait, some can eat nothing and put on loads!

Una · 16 Sep 2006 at 14:00

squiffy said:
The problem with "healthy" food is that it's usually more expensive and takes longer to prepare, and not that filling.

I disagree with it being more expensive, in the long run you can prepare food and freeze/keep whatever is left over for another day. Ready meals/take-aways and things are much more expensive than making something your self.

NiCkNaMe · 16 Sep 2006 at 14:18

reflex said:
I can eat anything and not put on wait, some can eat nothing and put on loads!

It's not all about appearance ya' know

Fair do's if your playing by that philosophy, if you are indeed eating 'anything' (by that I assume chocolate, fast food, etc, etc) then I'd love to see the condition of your arteries and general health in a few years

Lopéz · 16 Sep 2006 at 15:20

I don't understand why people can't find a compromise :/ Surely it isn't tricky?

This week for dinner I have had
1) Sausage, egg and chips
2) Lamb stew & potato
3) Sea Bass
4) Pasta bake
5) Bacon & cheese flan thing

All very nice, none particularly "healthy" but none particularly "unhealthy" either. It was the same when I was a kid - burger and chips one day, shepherds pie the next, then some fish, then a pizza, then a lasagne.

People need to remember that "healthy" does not mean "cram as many lettuce leaves on to a plate as you can possibly manage", and that having a burger and chips does not make you Satan's even nastier little brother.

I'm out on the raz tonight and will probably finish off with a kebab which these days probably elevates you to Fascist Dictator at the very least.

-Mike- · 16 Sep 2006 at 16:22

fozzybear said:
I don't need to be a parent to know that a healthy diet is helpful if not vital in a childs infant to teenage years.

So is rest or other time for a young persons brain. Its no good constantly cramming it. 30 minutes to eat dinner and back to lessons? Utter rubbish.