Ched Evans

Andybtsn said:
He's not as mainstream but this is Luke McCormick who killed two children drink driving. Now plays for Plymouth, it barely broke the news when he came back into football, certainly not all the media hype/bandwagon jumping Evans has caused.
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I read about this today never even heard of Luke McCormick his actions took the lives of two kids , where was the protests / petitions against him playing again ??.

Evans should be allowed to play again imo, it's been debated to death on bbc 5 live ,discussing it again this morning when i flicked the radio on.
 
BaZ87 said:
I will say one thing though and that, as has been said already, the single reason he's not found a new club yet has been because of the media attention. There are countless examples of where other players have walked back into clubs after committing crimes because there hasn't been the publicity as there has in this case. .
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I don't think it's the single reason. Another reason is he isn't good enough. Had he been for example a Beckham or Suarez level of ability playing for a top 4 club he would have been picked up from prison by a club. In the same way Mike Tyson was a money generator so people could look the other way.

I think he should be able to carry on playing, if he can live with the amount of abuse he will get then good luck to him. The role model argument doesn't stand up, plenty of footballers have been to prison and been allowed to carry on. Adams and Drunken Duncan spring to mind.
 
BaZ87 said:
Agree 100%. I was the biggest football fan in the world as a kid but I can safely say that I've not been influenced by any action from any footballer, certainly not one off the pitch, in regards to becoming the person I am. In fact a recently retired Liverpool player got up to no good at a Liverpool Christmas party when I was fairly young, which made pretty big news and I was completely oblivious to it until recently. Kids that are at impressionable ages won't have a clue about what Evans (or whoever else) has done off the pitch and the ones that are older and do know, it's the responsibility of their parents to ensure their child doesn't grow up to act in a similar way.

It's my parents and other family and friends that's have influenced me, not any footballer or celebrity. It's just a cop out used to excuse bad parenting.

As for the original question. I can't decide. To be honest I don't know enough about what's he's been accused of doing to pass too much judgement but the headline charge of rape I think is deplorable and deserves any punishment that that comes. The flip side to that is that he's always maintained his innocence and no matter how unlikely it may be, to further punish him for something he might not have been guilty of would be wrong. Again, without knowing more details about what happened it's difficult to say.

I will say one thing though and that, as has been said already, the single reason he's not found a new club yet has been because of the media attention. There are countless examples of where other players have walked back into clubs after committing crimes because there hasn't been the publicity as there has in this case. Football clubs and their sponsors have little morals, they only care when the medial jump on their backs.
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It's like you're in my head. They are my thoughts exactly.
 
I don't think the two and a half years has helped his case. It's as though he has got away with it.

Personally I think they should chop his knob off.
 
He should be allowed to play football or do we not believe in the justice system doing its job properly?

If it is proved he raped that girl he should be executed for his crime as she has to live with it for the rest of her life.

If he is cleared then lawsuits will be flying all over the place!
 
Moses said:
Obviously the subsequent treatment the victim has received is beyond awful, but that's not his fault.
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Well his website run by his family posted CCTV of the girl he raped from the hotel where it occurred with the caption "Does she look too drunk?" or something to that effect. That is within his control and therefore partly his fault.
 
It's a tricky situation, until the result from the Criminal Cases Review Commission comes out it can't really be decided.

If it comes out that he shouldn't have been prosecuted, then he was wrongfully charged and i don't think people could argue about him returning to a club.

However if the CCRC agree that the evidence suggests he did commit the crime, then no he shouldn't be able to return to football. Disregarding his possible salary, and whether people think football players are role models, there's still the fact that he will be in public light in a footballing profession. That also doesn't take into account his lack of remorse for his actions, which in turn gives the impression that football players can break whichever laws they please without the full consequences.

Either way, he'd be better off finding alternative employment away from the public eye and making a fresh start on life.
 
I'm a Sheff utd supporter.

I personally didn't want us to resign him when he got out of prison, but I do believe if a club is willing to take him on, he should be allowed. Also for those saying he should go playing in a foreign country, he did have an offer from a club in malta(?) but that was blocked as he isn't allowed to leave the country, apparently.

Anyway.. Luke McCormick killed 2 children and is now the captain of a football club. No one outside of Football has heard of him. I don't agree that people convicted of these types of crimes should be allowed to return to professional football, but that kind of decision has to be made at the time of sentencing. Not afterwards.
 
He should be allowed to play, he has served his time so you cannot disbar him from making a living BUT any club bonkers enough to employ an ex rapist and disgusting person needs to understand and live with the fact they will suffer a lot of I'll feeling and potential loss of sponsorship. Whilst he has a right to play no one has to employ him and anyone who does needs to understand the consequence of their actions, any club who wants him are a disgrace IMO but he still has the right to play.
 
While he maintains his innocence and not cleared it's going to be extremely difficult for him to get a playing contract in my view. I can only see two options for him really, either he gives up fighting the case, accepts he's done it and apologises and hopes someone is prepared to give him a chance despite the obvious public backlash, or he gives up attempting to go back to football and devotes all his efforts into fighting his case.

I would also like to say that both he and his family sound like a lovely bunch of people, honest :P. There is certainly no way I'd want him playing or being associated in any way for my club. That said, I don't know too much about the case, but what I have read about it certainly seemed extremely dodgy to say the least but there must be some pretty convincing evidence somewhere to show he could be convicted of the crime.
 
No1newts said:
He should be allowed to play, he has served his time so you cannot disbar him from making a living BUT any club bonkers enough to employ an ex rapist and disgusting person needs to understand and live with the fact they will suffer a lot of I'll feeling and potential loss of sponsorship. Whilst he has a right to play no one has to employ him and anyone who does needs to understand the consequence of their actions, any club who wants him are a disgrace IMO but he still has the right to play.
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This sums up my thoughts. According to law he's allowed to play football, and therefore should play football. On the other hand, that doesn't necessarily mean that he'll get employed any time soon.

It's unjust to have a set of laws which apply to everyone... unless you're famous and wealthy, and believe you're innocent, and therefore you should be punished further. It says an awful lot that the prison system is meant to reeducate, rejuvenate and reintegrate criminals back into society... but not for Ched Evans. He's somehow removed from the system...

Ochlocracy is a dangerous approach.
 
Tummy said:
I have no idea why the comparisons to Hughes. I have never agreed with Lee Hughes playing football again, let alone not being in prison still.
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Ex convict returns to professional football playing. Seems a fair comparison.
Tummy said:
He is employable again, but there is no act that states he has to return to his previous employment or that a potential employer employ him.
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Absolutely not...

Tummy said:
I think the FA should stop him playing football...
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...but this is a very different thing. No employer choosing to take him on is very different to a governing body stopping any gainful employment in his previous profession.

Where does it stop? Can a shoplifter play professional football? What about an arsonist? Armed robber? Murderer?
 
I don't think he should be signed by any club. Just feel's wrong that a convicted rapist should be cheered on by crowds. I know other footballers have committed crimes and come back to football but there's just something really wrong about rape. For me some types of crime should not be forgotten about once the sentence is served. Nobody would be asking Ian Huntley back as a caretaker would they? (extreme example I know)
 
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