Ched Evans

elmuzzy66. said:
If he is acquitted then there is no issue is there?
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Thats a really strange view...

Basically you are taking whatever the courts say as being the absolute and complete truth on the matter when the case is very much down to interpretation and what peoples views on consent are.

He has always claimed his innocence and like with so many things seen from the outside, we will never know truly what happened that night.
 
fez said:
Thats a really strange view...

Basically you are taking whatever the courts say as being the absolute and complete truth on the matter when the case is very much down to interpretation and what peoples views on consent are.

He has always claimed his innocence and like with so many things seen from the outside, we will never know truly what happened that night.
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Its not a strange view since his crime and conviction are the issue:confused:
 
Gilly said:
Where does it stop? Can a shoplifter play professional football? What about an arsonist? Armed robber? Murderer?
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Like I have said; A player whom is convicted of a serious crime which carries a custodial sentence should have their registration removed.
 
elmuzzy66. said:
Its not a strange view since his crime and conviction are the issue:confused:
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My point is that this isn't a crime where x did y and x is being punished for y. Its a crime where x is accused of y and denies doing y and a court sided with the prosecution.

If they change their mind that doesn't change his actions and what you think of them.

Thats like saying that a man who is convicted of murder and is 100% guilty but is set free due to a police blunder or something of that nature is all fine and dandy whereas if he was still convicted he is a worse human being and should never be forgiven.
 
He's (rightly or wrongly) served his time and now he should be able to get on with his career. Otherwise, what's the point in releasing people from prison?
 
Tummy said:
Like I have said; A player whom is convicted of a serious crime which carries a custodial sentence should have their registration removed.
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Or what about Tony Adams should never have played football again? Serious crime with a custodial sentence, so in your eyes his registration should be removed?

Someone can kill someone with dangerous driving and still be allowed to get a job driving a vehicle afterwards, so why should a footballer not be allowed to make a living as well.
 
Azza said:
Wonder how people will feel if he is acquitted.
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As with every crime of a sexual nature, it just stays the same but you add "but he got away with it" at the end, so you get "he raped someone... but he got away with it" :rolleyes:

I hope he's wins his appeal personally; I think the whole case stank IMO, and has set a very shakey precedent, given that I believe there was never actually a complaint of rape made to the police.
 
dannyjo22 said:
Or what about Tony Adams should never have played football again? Serious crime with a custodial sentence, so in your eyes his registration should be removed?

Someone can kill someone with dangerous driving and still be allowed to get a job driving a vehicle afterwards, so why should a footballer not be allowed to make a living as well.
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There is nothing stopping him making a living, just not in football.
 
Mucky_Pup said:
As with every crime of a sexual nature, it just stays the same but you add "but he got away with it" at the end, so you get "he raped someone... but he got away with it" :rolleyes:

I hope he's wins his appeal personally; I think the whole case stank IMO, and has set a very shakey precedent, given that I believe there was never actually a complaint of rape made to the police.
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If he wins then he won't be a rapist anymore, just a sexual predator ;)

But like most people I didn't have access to all the evidence, but jury members did and they found him guilty. The Court of appeal also upheld the decision last year. So why would anyone think he will win this appeal?

Gilly said:
There is nothing stopping him doing that either if he can find an employer.
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Looks like he might be signing for Oldham afterall and being paid around £2,500 a week. :mad:
 
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I'm divided on whether he should play again - I can see it from both angles.

Personally, I don't understand why anyone would want to be on the field to listen to what will be directed towards them.

Who I really feel for is the parents taking their kids to watch a game of football, as the level of vitriol spat is going to be off the scale. It's often bad enough in a normal match.
 
serveal sponsors have pulled their funding from the club already as they don't want their name associated with Ched. From what I understand; if Mike Ashley decides to pull his sponsorship (sports direct), the club can not financially survive without it.
 
Dan Roan ‏@danroan 1m1 minute ago

Oldham board member tells us deal to sign Ched Evans is OFF due to "enormous pressure from sponsors and threats to staff and their families"
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Threats to staff and their families... seriously what is wrong with people.
 
The same thing that is wrong with the people whom have attacked the rape victim (forcing her to change her identity five times) and people defending Evans over his convicted rape.

While, no doubt that outside pressure played a part, there is also an enormous logistical challenge in employing a registered sex offender. He cannot be around people under the age of 18 (could be 16), nightmare for training if young players are involved, and mascots on match day, as well as other issues.

It is still a huge risk, even if a convicted rapists partners family are willing to pay his wages and make financial contributions to the football club whom he signs for.
 
slinxy said:
serveal sponsors have pulled their funding from the club already as they don't want their name associated with Ched. From what I understand; if Mike Ashley decides to pull his sponsorship (sports direct), the club can not financially survive without it.
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Maybe I'm cynical but I suspect these sponsors are seeing this as a great opportunity for some free PR. Any sponsor terminating it's agreement with the club will get more press coverage than they do for actually sponsoring them to begin with.

It's funny how we've not heard about sponsors pulling the plug on deals where clubs have signed previously convicted players, where there hasn't been this much press coverage.

Tummy said:
While, no doubt that outside pressure played a part, there is also an enormous logistical challenge in employing a registered sex offender. He cannot be around people under the age of 18 (could be 16), nightmare for training if young players are involved, and mascots on match day, as well as other issues.
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You seem to know a lot about this Tummy ;)
 
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