Chemical attack in London...

"His asylum status is not the issue"

"We see ever increasing incel culture"

"Microaggressions"

"We have to do better with education. We have to support them (boys) to have better attitudes to women."

"Cuts to women's services"


Jesus!
"Microaggressions", stop them, stop women getting doused in acid/alkali.

This is the same ******** that leads the police to arresting people for saying something not nice on Twitter as that leads to genocide if it's not stopped.

Clown world.
 
yes, absolutely

This is your reminder that D.P called this country all sorts of names, ran up an expensive bill being educated here and then tried to avoid paying back his loans because it was apparently too difficult from the tax haven of Switzerland he had domiciled himself in.

He's one of the last people that should be listened to when it comes to who the UK should be admitting or not.
 
Sure, but can we have ones that aren't criminals/scum and can contribute to society instead of damaging it? That isn't too much to ask is it.

I agree. It's absolutely fine to have immigration and emigration. But someone with a previous criminal history of sex offences? Absolutely not.

I wouldn't blanket say "criminal = no". As someone stealing. Food to survive? Yeh that's fine.
Someone beating someone to death? Not so much
 
I agree. It's absolutely fine to have immigration and emigration. But someone with a previous criminal history of sex offences? Absolutely not.

I wouldn't blanket say "criminal = no". As someone stealing. Food to survive? Yeh that's fine.
Someone beating someone to death? Not so much
The news now seems to be suggesting he was never eligible for asylum in the first place because of his earlier sexual offenses. Clearly there are rules they just seem to be not being followed. Whoever made that choice should be sacked.
 
The news now seems to be suggesting he was never eligible for asylum in the first place because of his earlier sexual offenses. Clearly there are rules they just seem to be not being followed. Whoever made that choice should be sacked.
I truly hope that the person who let it through was not following the correct rules and they made a mistake.
They will hopefully have to live with that mistake.

Tbh it shouldn't be down to one person either. If it is, that's a terrible system.


Mistakes all over the place with this.
 
sure, this likely requires better funding and. government that is not purposely trying to create news headlines to win the far right vote. A properly funded immigration system wont require anyone to spend months on hotels and will be better resourced to make critical decisions so errors are less likely

immigrants as a whole contribute more to the economy on average than british born citizens, so they are the ones funding your state supported lifestyle

Amazing two posts back to back!

Immigrant not only contribute more as a whole to the UK (apparently) but we also need to spend more more on a better funded immigration service to reap the benefits of presumably more of these net contributers!

D.P. knows full well that the stats for asylum seekers overwhelmingly show that they are a massive drain both financially and socially on their host country.

His inability to undertand that not all migrants are the same and the issue is the lack of ability to discern this and discriminate accordingly is quite amazing!

More money would only help if it meant more of these people were removed promptly!
 
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Amazing two posts back to back!

Immigrant not only contribute more as a whole to the UK (apparently) but we also need to spend more more on a better funded immigration service to reap the benefits of presumably more of these net contributers!

D.P. knows full well that the stats for asylum seekers overwhelmingly show that they are a massive drain both financially and socially on their host country.

His inability to undertand that not all migrants are the same and the issue is the lack of ability to discern this and discriminate accordingly is quite amazing!

More money would only help if it meant more of these people were removed promptly!

His first point is entirely accurate. The system has been underfunded for years which led to the backlog. We have no idea what pressure there is on staff to process claims faster (if this happened with this guy) or maybe it was before things were really bad. We don't know the exact details around the decision to give him leave to remain either.. just taking "oh he converted to christianity" is not going to get you aslyum. It just isn't. It sounds like a mistake has been made.. and we need to find out why.

The topic about immigrants putting in more than they take out is entirely correct about immigration as a whole (including Aslyum seekers given leave to remain). We don't know the breakdown or difference between those who arrive on visa's compared to those who have sucessful aslyum claims.
 
Here's one immediate change I would make to the UK's asylum system.

Only (claimed) conditions present at the time of entry into the UK should be considered in an asylum claim in favour of it.

For example claim to have converted to Christianity in the UK after arriving - irrelevant.

Get convicted of a criminal offence in the UK that might cause you difficulty if you are returned - your fault you should not have broken the law.
 
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You're joking.

Some mid-ranker is having to set out why guidance was not followed, along with a full explanation of its clarity and fitness. They will get a beating!
What'll happen is some poor dude will get thrown under the bus and the system will continue to not function as intended. One point I agree with D.P is that the system is underfunded and one can only conclude that it is deliberate.
 
Illegally enters the country on the back of a wagon. Has two failed claims for asylum (and yet is not shipped back). Gets arrested, charged and convicted of numerous sexual crimes. Says he's a now a Christian. Asylum granted, despite the aforementioned convictions. Goes on to attack women, children, innocent members of the public and police officers with chemicals.

Yeah a few people are going to be losing their jobs over this. And to be honest, they should be charged with whatever offences can found.
 
Yeah somehow I don't think DP was correctly addressing how more money would 'help'....


Which of course I outlined in my post anyway.

More money would have helped years ago to ensure we were not spending 8 million a day on hotels as claims would be processed faster. Anyone not having an approved claim (it's about 25% on appeal, not getting approved) could then potentially be removed.

Problem is, after Brexit we hardly have any returns agreements thanks to the govt.

Anyway, none of that applies to this guy as it seems someone screwed up his individual application. Need to find out why.
 
I hope they catch the scrote and I’m sure it won’t be long.

However, I’m having to imagine the reactions if the culprit wasn’t an asylum seeker/immigrant because they wouldn’t exist from some and it wouldn’t help their “cause”.
 
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