Child sex trafficking ring found guilty
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I always find it interesting that while most people are happy to accept the idea that different "Breeds" of Dog may exhibit different temperaments and behaviour, they are outraged at the idea that different "Breeds" of Human might!
Of course Dogs as with people are heavily influenced by their "Culture" (How they are brought up or trained) but I have no problem with the idea that there is a heavy genetic component to temperament and behaviour as well.
The Silver fox experiment suggests (from what I read elsewhere) that it is pretty much 50/50
Were it not possible to select for behaviour, there would be no domesticated animals! And unless one is going to suggest that Humans are somehow fundamentally different to every other animal on the planet then the proposition that this does not apply to Humans as well must be untenable!
Soldato
You misunderstand my point.
I'm saying that plenty of white people commit crimes & the fact they are white isn't mentioned.
It's akin to when a women drives badly it's "women can't drive" - but when a man drives badly it's "that guy can't drive".
You don't get it do you?, when all this stuff about priests or old 60's/70's famous people was in the news, this forum didn't start an attack on white people - it simply attacked the individuals, when people of different cultures get involved in crime it's used as an excuse to spout bigotry.
If you want to argue that certain cultural elements from around the globe lead to the abuse of women I'd be more inclined to take your point seriously (as some elements of this do exist) - but for one it's not racial, it's cultural.
I get your point, but humans are all the "same breed of dog - just different shades" to use that analogy.
Cultural norms will greatly impact on a persons behaviour, along with developing functional cognitive empathy.
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I've never seen any evidence that there are any real differences between the races, other than the obvious physical differences, but there's a wealth of evidence to suggest that we're all just products of our environment.
I don't think animals can really be a fair comparison here, the differences between cultures (or races, if you believe that) are far more complex than basic animal instincts.
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When the news says men of Pakistan origin, you can guess the are not White.
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We keep letting them or stay here - take their British passport off them, then boot them back to where their ancestors came from & stop letting anymore in.
Thanks to ****** Blair & his labour cronies where over run with them.
UKIP Please get us out
Thanks to ****** Blair & his labour cronies where over run with them.
UKIP Please get us out
Soldato
They were born here, as, I expect, were you. If you were to commit such a crime, should we send you back to your ancesteral home? You make me sick.
Soldato
I'm sorry but I believe it is a 'cultural thing', I've worked with ethnic people for nearly 20 years and I can assure you per capita there is more that would take advantage of girls than there is in the UK.
And don't even get me started on Pakistani's, per captia they have to be the worst people I've ever meet in my entire life, (men mostly of course), awful awful people, manners of a dog.
From UN report/study on child abuse in Pakistan,
"The first indications of the scale of the problem have been revealed in this early report from North-West Frontier Province.
It shows that one third of those who took part in the survey did not even believe that child sexual abuse was a bad thing - let alone a crime."
Which is why I'm arguing it's more to do with culture than race.
And don't even get me started on Pakistani's, per captia they have to be the worst people I've ever meet in my entire life, (men mostly of course), awful awful people, manners of a dog.
From UN report/study on child abuse in Pakistan,
"The first indications of the scale of the problem have been revealed in this early report from North-West Frontier Province.
It shows that one third of those who took part in the survey did not even believe that child sexual abuse was a bad thing - let alone a crime."
Which is why I'm arguing it's more to do with culture than race.
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Well, you've said it yourself... When the Catholic priests were in the media for paedophilia, did people say "oh, they're just picking on Catholics, there are paedophiles in all walks of life, there's no need to mention the fact they're Catholics"? Well, Catholics said that but most people found the fact that it was a trend in the Catholic church to be relevant to the stories, and the same applies here I believe.
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UKIP are going to stop all sex offences and pedophiles? Or is "booting them back to where their ancestors came from" going to prevent things like this happening?
Seriously people think about what you are saying, it really beggars belief the way that some people think.
These men are horrible, disgusting criminals who destroyed children’s lives. This is nothing to do with where their ancestors came from or their race, every race has monsters.
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That's because they were very much individual crimes, this is a criminal conspiracy from one ethnic group targeting another. Child abuse is abhorrent whether it's committed by an individual or a gang, but don't pretend that Jimmy Saville and these guys are the same. Their methods,targets and motivation are very different and we *should* be concerned about it.
Their target is racial.
Soldato
http://www.metro.co.uk/news/759483-paedophile-gang-ringleaders-jailed
Heres a few "rape gangs" of caucasian ethnicty.
As for statistics regarding proportionality of the offences one just has to look at places like Vietnam, Cambodia, Thailand etc etc where white men would be proportionally higher against the native population.
Not that any of that makes any difference, just maybe some of the delusions in this thread can get dealt with..
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Their background is a contributory factor, sorry.
Pakistani culture is to put women in a submissive role, they see white women here as morally loose, good for a romp but not someone to marry. No Pakastani guy would be allowed by his family to marry a white girl, you get a nice village girl or stay single.
They also have less freedom to date as we do and make more use of prostitutes.
White girls from care homes are easy targets for them (they never use Pakistani girls for this) and they make an acceptable 'product' for other Pakistani men to use (again a Pakistani prostitute would be unheard of, but it is culterally OK to rape a white girl)
Lol at anyone wanting to call these points (or me) racist, because they were all in a documentary made by a Pakistani guy investigating this problem in his own community.
So yes it is actually recognised by some Muslims, but in reality none of them want to speak out against fellow Muslims and they don't want the attention anyway.
Soldato
Jees, seems someones obssessed with race/ethinicity/religion
Possibly one of the most retarded posts ive had the pleasure of reading. Thanks for the laugh.
Soldato
Not really, the catholic church as an organisation was complicit in the cover up.
I read your link but again, it seems the caucasian "gangs" are more focused on sharing child pornography than actually seeking out vulerable girls so they can be exploited for prostitution (although I note Trevor Haddock in your quoted paragraph). Obviously, caucasians have abused children too but the gangs seem to have different goals.