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What’s your actual job jpaul?
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semiconductors ... so, also at the mercy of chinese plagiarism/IP theft, missed a bullet with a huawei job; but that industry maybe a bit harder for the chinese to assimilate.
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meanwhile as Rome burns Reeves says

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52.Both sides agree on the importance of enhancing dialogue on bilateral trade and investment cooperation and industry collaboration whilst respecting national interests. The Ministry of Commerce (MOFCOM) and the Department for Business and Trade (DBT) will convene the 14th UK-China Joint Economic and Trade Commission at an appropriate time. The Ministry of Industry and Information Technology (MIIT) and DBT will hold the 2nd UK-China Industrial Cooperation dialogue at an appropriate time. Both sides agree to continue to exchange views on industrial policy, and to strengthen dialogue on standards, regulations and policies in the fields of automobiles, green and lowcarbon development, and the digital economy. Both sides support deepening the industry-led UKChina Industrial Cooperation Partnership (ICP).
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noted, a JLR representative didn't accompany her just financial institution bosses.
 
Just watching Jayemm's latest video where he's calling out the ethics of Chinese car launches. In particular, an offer he and several others received from Jaecoo (me neither) to collaboratively "review" their new PHEV SUV...in exchange for £5k and some pretty strict conditions and contingent on them rubber stamping the output.


Usually wouldn't be bothered...except Jonny Smith, who I really rate, apparently took the money. I'd watched his video just before the Jayemm one :(

Hoping this isn't a common occurrence, and I'm aware that just the other day I said that I think Jayemm himself can be a bit cklickbaity...but he seems to be fairly on the money here in calling out Jaecoo for basically paying for good reviews.
 
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‘Watched’ both videos at 2X speed so I may have missed something.

They were both wrong IMO.

Jay was wrong for suggesting he was being asked for a paid review, that clearly wasn’t what was being asked for which was a fairly big standard influencer marketing campaign. Also the £5k was for boosting posts on social media, not remuneration for the spot. The approach asked him to supply his rates for his time, again boilerplate influencer marketing campaign stuff.

Jonny Smith didn’t make it abundantly clear that it was a paid marketing collaboration at the start of the video although it was clear from the format of the video it wasn’t a review. Despite elements of it having review like content (e.g. discussed the size and styling), it was a very light on actual opinion and focused on the drive and was a demonstration of the range of the car per the challenge set by the manufacturer.

The comments were an utter dumpster fire though and a very typical social media pile on.
 
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b0rn2sk8 said:
‘Watched’ both videos at 2X speed so I may have missed something.

They were both wrong IMO.

Jay was wrong for suggesting he was being asked for a paid review, that clearly wasn’t what was being asked for which was a fairly big standard influencer marketing campaign. Also the £5k was for boosting posts on social media, not remuneration for the spot. The approach asked him to supply his rates for his time, again boilerplate influencer marketing campaign stuff.

Jonny Smith didn’t make it abundantly clear that it was a paid marketing collaboration at the start of the video although it was clear from the format of the video it wasn’t a review. Despite elements of it having review like content (e.g. discussed the size and styling), it was a very light on actual opinion and focused on the drive and was a demonstration of the range of the car per the challenge set by the manufacturer.

The comments were an utter dumpster fire though and a very typical social media pile on.
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No that's fair enough. To be fair, Jayemm also makes it clear that he only knows for sure what he was offered, so that's no guarantee of what anyone else was, or what terms they accepted. And you're right about Jonny Smith, he is usually very open about sponsorships and stuff. I have to admit I didn't pay too much attention myself, as I'm not really interested in the car, but I like his channel so it was an automatic watch from me, even if I didn't have full attention on it, but it did feel a bit light on detail.

You're also right about the comments. People throwing their toys out of the pram. I get it, at first I raised an eyebrow too, but I'm not going to unsubscribe.
 
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Conscript said:
Just watching Jayemm's latest video where he's calling out the ethics of Chinese car launches. In particular, an offer he and several others received from Jaecoo (me neither) to collaboratively "review" their new PHEV SUV...in exchange for £5k and some pretty strict conditions and contingent on them rubber stamping the output.


Usually wouldn't be bothered...except Jonny Smith, who I really rate, apparently took the money. I'd watched his video just before the Jayemm one :(

Hoping this isn't a common occurrence, and I'm aware that just the other day I said that I think Jayemm himself can be a bit cklickbaity...but he seems to be fairly on the money here in calling out Jaecoo for basically paying for good reviews.
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Pretty standard Chinese business practises lol. They release a slightly questionable product, then buy some reviews.

Surely everyone expects this by now?
 
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Nasher said:
Pretty standard Chinese business practises lol. They release a slightly questionable product, then buy some reviews.

Surely everyone expects this by now?
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Except that is not what happened. A classic example of how to identify yourself that has watched neither video before posting utter nonsense about it on the internet.

You can't 'buy' a review, the very notion that money traded hands means it isn't a review by definition.

Be sure to let us know why you think the product is 'questionable'...
 
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