Chinese Grand Prix 2010, Shanghai - Race 4/19

This was probably one of the best races I have ever watched!!! Lewis was awesome at overtaking, also finishing 1 second behind the winner doing 4 stops!!! Good call by Jenson yet again to do with tyres, fully deserved win.
 
Superb race - well done to Button for having the maturity to make correct tyre choice and to then make sure he keeps them in good condition for as long as possible. Good race too for Lewis, and really great to see him smiling and laughing with Jenson after the race.

I expect a fair stewards decision now that they've got the ex-racers involved and would expect penalties for both Vettel and Hamilton based on their 'enthusiasm'.

Lol at DC for disappearing during the forum :)
 
I think mclaren should get the same fine that ferrari did in valencia for the pit release purely becuase it was a simu release in a system that favours the team behind while vettle should get a 5 place grid drop in the next race for being a douche in the pitlane.
 
Another fantastic race. The weather sure has shown the media who is boss after all of the slagging off F1 for being boring.

Lewis "The Maverick" Hamilton was the watch of the day again. Indecision on the first pit was extreme.. talk about leaving it late. Controversy surely to come, I wouldn't expect anything less even if I dont think he did anything wrong. Release was almost the same time, wheel spin is what caught him out and allowed Vettel through.. the pitstop guys can't account for that.

Jenson "Decision Maker" Button put in a damn fine effort. Got himself to the front and kept it. The restart was interesting, A) the safety car stayed out too long, B) that was some very slow driving.

Nico "Batman" Rosberg I think is cementing his place at the front of the team. Michael "Robin" Schumacher can't make the car perform.. we're all still waiting but he always seems to be struggling. Brundle said the setup looked poor and yet Schumacher should have enough experience to get that right.

I hope the stewards don't mess about with ridiculous decisions. It was a good race. A few incidents but you can't eliminate all incidents with rulings..
 
I thought Vettel was a disgrace and should have been black flagged, both cars were released at the same time, I have no real problem with that, the ludicrous white line rubbish along the pitlane is dangerous in the wet, it shouldn't be there and certainly screwed Lewis up on his release.

But the problem for me came when they were side by side, Vettel had a mile of room and pushed Hamilton to the right, but Hamilton has his front tire between Vettel's, he couldn't back off, he had no where to go after Vettel squeezed him out, if Vettel stayed left both would have been safe.

Frankly if Hamilton hit one of those cables the guns were attached to, which he was pushed into and very close to catching, something very bad could have happened. I have no clue at all why Vettel pushed him over, also can't see how Hamilton did anything wrong, both cars came out at basically the same time, after that Hamilton had no where to go at all and did nothing wrong.


Certainly an interesting race and certainly more overtaking than other races, Hamilton showed great speed throughout in general and Button, in clear air failed to really pull out any significant lead yet again at any stage of the race.

Sure the front 2-3 had a massive lead after stupid pitstops, had the other cars not have stopped they'd not have pulled a lead out at all.

Hamiltons lack of pace after the final stop seemed puzzling, normally he does push his tires hard, but thats generally while quite easily outpacing everyone on the track, but he was onpar/slower than Button from his second lap on new tires, so not sure where exactly he wore out his front left compared to Button? Perhaps just a dodgey front left tire as the rest of his tires were not bad while his front left was bald, and his other 3 tires seemed to go bald the same time Button's did?

Rather strange, great drive from Hamilton and more ridiculous pitstop strategy's from Hamilton's tactics man, of those who screwed up pitstops he was leagues ahead of the rest, which suggests to me where Hamilton would have been in other races had his tactics man in the pits not been completely retarded.
 
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I expect a fair stewards decision now that they've got the ex-racers involved and would expect penalties for both Vettel and Hamilton based on their 'enthusiasm'.

Yeh that sounds like a good idea. If we start penalising 'enthusiasm' now we can probably sap 90% of the excitement from the sport by the end of the season.

I don't have any problem with what happened in the pit lane. You can do "what ifs" all day long. Fact of the matter is Lewis didn't get out of his box well and lost a place because of it.
 
Very disappointed with Alonso's pit lane entry move on Massa and the fact that he jumped the start.

That was probably the only moment that made me angry today, and I'm not a Massa supporter. It was boarderline when Lewis pulled that on Vettel, but to do it to your team mate is disgusting. I imagine those two won't be talking for some time.
 
This. There was tons of room for both cars to run side by side, but Vettel practically forced him into the pit boxes. Extremely dangerous and he should be the one getting penalised.

Well I agree that Vettel acted dangerously there. In my opinion they should give no penalty and a rules clarification saying that Hamilton or any other driver should concede the position in that situation, and that squeezing cars in the pit lane is unacceptable. Either that, or a penalty for both drivers. I would also understand a decision to only punish Hamilton, as he should have conceded that place.
 
Well I agree that Vettel acted dangerously there. In my opinion they should give no penalty and a rules clarification saying that Hamilton or any other driver should concede the position in that situation, and that squeezing cars in the pit lane is unacceptable. Either that, or a penalty for both drivers. I would also understand a decision to only punish Hamilton, as he should have conceded that place.


The issue is how would he concede the place, by the time lewis had his car under control from a poor getaway his front wheel was between vettels who had already started moving over to the right, the only way for hamilton to essentially unlock would be to go even further right and risk killing some folk.
 
If Hamilton gets a penalty and Vettel doesn't it will be on par with Lewis/Kimi at Spa08 for stupid decisions.

I hope neither get a penalty.
 
Either that, or a penalty for both drivers. I would also understand a decision to only punish Hamilton, as he should have conceded that place.

There was enough space to drive side by side until Vettel squeezes LH - so not sure why LH should have to concede at all


In regards to the 2nd safety car restart, I think its bad placing of the safety car line rather than anything JB did - I think Rosberg coped well with JB going slow but maybe a lot of others were still thinking it was the start/finish line which is where over taking is allowed from which caused the problem

If the safety car line was after the corner, the issue wouldnt have arisen / or if it was still the start/finish line (which I dont really know why they changed from this to be fair) , but every single driver leading into that situation with the hairpin coming up would do exactly the same as JB - every sc effected race Ive watched in the last 20 years or so the lead driver bunches the pack up as much as possible and its because of the hairpin that it just looked that much worse imo
 
Jenson slowed down quite gradually in F1 terms, as far as I'm concerned everyone behind all just left it later and later which then caused the issue.
 
can someone shop vettels number1 finger pic and put 6 fingers on it??

Best I can do in 5mins...

vettelsixfinger.jpg
 
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