Chinese Grand Prix 2011, Shanghai International Circuit - Race 3/19

My favourite section is up - http://www.planet-f1.com/race-features/6883616/Team-Mate-Wars-Shanghai

Jake Humphrey Checklist (per grand prix)
Unnecessary use of word tasty (2 races out of 3) In China we got "a very tasty trophy" (No Jake, it actually looks like something that sits in the window of your local Chinese takeaway) and also "some pretty tasty overtaking".
Reference to Eddie Jordan's old team (3 out of 3) even when he's not there.
Is there going to be a party, they love a party etc? (2 out of 3) "Red Bull are usually partying in there" he said wistfully, wishing they were there so he could blag an alcopop.
Reference to EJ's shirt (3 out of 3)
Nearly getting run over (1 out of 3). Having steered clear of cars in the first two races he was almost hit by a car making its way to the grid and then by a fork lift trick in China. It's going to happen sooner or later...

Brundle's 'Del Boy' Jewellery versus Coulthard's White Trousers
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:D
 
Kenai said:
They haven't introduced a rule, they've introduced a device that gives the following car a huge advantage down a straight leaving the leading car pretty much completely defenceless in the process.

It's not exciting IMO, as so often so far this season the overtakes we are seeing are becoming a case of 'tail your opponent so you are within 1s at DRS check, the drive past on the straight'. wow, edge of the seat stuff.

All the excitement at China came not from the DRS, but from the tyres and the way everyone is still learning them.
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You've missed the point. You have to be in a faster car in the first place to get within 1 second of the car in front.

The problem in the past was a faster car could catch another car but then it was to easy to block and you lost to much down-force performance you couldn't pass unless the car in front made a mistake. The new rules and DRS is a relatively cheep and simple solution to a complicated problem.

Passing is passing at the end of the day, and as long as its braking into the corner rather than on the straight, I don't see the problem. And this is why the stewards change it over the weekend, so this happens


All FIA need to do now is fix the Tilke tracks
 
sunama said:
Now that the FIA have introduced rules to allow overtaking, people are now complaining that overtaking is too easy.

Come on guys, make up your mind.

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You can't win......I personaly think that the FIA have done a fonominal job, there have been far more people intrested in the sport, people who are none technical are showing an intrest in the sport becuase there is more action.

how the hell is this a bad thing!!!!!! more action = more views
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[TW]Taggart;18938902 said:
You've missed the point. You have to be in a faster car in the first place to get within 1 second of the car in front.
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[QUOTE='[TW]Passing is passing at the end of the day, and as long as its braking into the corner rather than on the straight, I don't see the problem. And this is why the stewards change it over the weekend, so this happens
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BUT, not all the pass attempts were successful. so his point is irelevant lol.

in simple english...........even with a DRS its not always going to be an easy pass, or a pass at all. :p
 
[TW]Taggart;18938902 said:
Passing is passing at the end of the day, and as long as its braking into the corner rather than on the straight, I don't see the problem.
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the problem is, cars were passing on the straight way before the braking zone.


because the drs zone started later, cars already got in the slip stream out of the corner then they hit the DRS and sail past.

they should put the drs as soon as you exit the corner and for x amount of meters to get you within the distance needed to outbrake.
 
There's just no need, cars where able to follow at 0.5 seconds anyway, fia just panicked and rather than accepting double diffuser undid all their hard work last year, introduced this stupid system.
 
utajoker said:
the problem is, cars were passing on the straight way before the braking zone.


because the drs zone started later, cars already got in the slip stream out of the corner then they hit the DRS and sail past.

they should put the drs as soon as you exit the corner and for x amount of meters to get you within the distance needed to outbrake.
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that could be due to many factors, like saving Kers untill that point and deploying it till all in one splerge.

They moved the DRS activation further forward, shortening the zone before the race. MB and DC said so in the comz

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/90883
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/90876

looks like the DRS haters are in the minority....
 
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How does two person translate to majority, also nearly everything one says is due to tyres and double diffuser not DRS.
 
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[TW]Taggart;18940590 said:
that could be due to many factors, like saving Kers untill that point and deploying it till all in one splerge.
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it was webber on button, button used his kers exiting the corner, dont think webber used his. he then hit the wing button and shot past.
 
utajoker said:
it was webber on button, button used his kers exiting the corner, dont think webber used his. he then hit the wing button and shot past.
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Webber was on fresh rubber. Buttons tyres were almost past it. rb is still about a second faster than the McLaren.

lets put it another way. The only other way to make overtaking more frequent would be to have more drastic reg changes. this would result in massive cost for the teams in RnD. Something I doubt even Ferrari would want.

FIA would rather eco engines than fixing the aero vs mech grip issues. but lets not go there :D
 
It wouldn't cost anymore than it does now, teams spend every penny they have, no reg change will result in more money being spent" however some rule changes would almost certainly bring more money into the sport.
 
From Anthony Davidson's Twitter page.

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[TW]Taggart;18940590 said:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/90883
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/90876

looks like the DRS haters are in the minority....
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There's no doubt it's great for the casual viewers and drivers who are a bit lacking in racecraft... but I'd rather F1 became 'unpredictable' through serious changes to aerodynamics not all these magicians tricks.

How has F1 gone from being a sport of racing flat out for 70 laps to one of nursing intentionally crap tyres, conserving fuel and using boost buttons to pass other cars?
 
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