Chinese Grand Prix 2014, Shanghai - Race 4/19

I can't wait to see you twitch more and more each race.

Padded cell by the end of the season :D

You really think the Championship is going to go to the end of the season? Rofl f1 noob much? I'd say Rosberg will have the WDC wrapped up well before the end of the season? But try Football if you want end of the season climaxes....maybe F1 isn't for you.
 
Not the first time that there's been a stuff-up with the chequered flag. Remember Brazil '02? Pele was given the job of waving the flag, and missed the first two cars across the line (the Schumacher brothers). When he finally waved the chequered flag, I think Sato was the first man to see it, a couple of laps down.
 
What an absolutely riveting race. Amazing. Edge of the Seat thriller...

Anyway, driver of the day... easily Rosberg, fantastic drive to recover from first straight knock and no telemetry. Brilliant recovery drive.

Another snoozefest season in store. Woohoooooo!


not sure i would give it to rosberg tbh, fastest car by a good chunk on the grid and he finished 2nd no where near his team mate. once he got on the mediums it looked easy. sometimes lapping 1.5 seconds faster than those in front.
 
not sure i would give it to rosberg tbh, fastest car by a good chunk on the grid and he finished 2nd no where near his team mate. once he got on the mediums it looked easy. sometimes lapping 1.5 seconds faster than those in front.

Yes but no telemetry and also didn't he have rubber stuck in his front wing so he was losing performance? He did very well to get 2nd.
 
You really think the Championship is going to go to the end of the season? Rofl f1 noob much? I'd say Rosberg will have the WDC wrapped up well before the end of the season? But try Football if you want end of the season climaxes....maybe F1 isn't for you.

haha keep on twitching! Its great :D
 
Comedians.

Why on Earth would Jenson be axed when he beat his team mate in the last two Grand Prix?

On top of that...

"Anything is possible, but Jenson is doing a great job," said Dennis. "He is quick and he is dedicated so there is no reason not to stay with Jenson from any perspective. But we still have a whole season to go."

A quote by the big man himself...

And on top of that Button has ties with Japan - Japanese Girlfriend, has driven for Honda before. FWIW Button may as well be Japanese to most of Japan!

If anyone is given the boot for let's say, someone like Stoffel, then so far this season it'd be Kevin.


Also, makes me laugh at how people don't say anything about Kimi Raikonnen - he's about the same age as Jenson, if not exactly the same age? Yet no one is saying this will be his last season...

Despite Alonso getting 3rd today and Kimi just scraping into the points - and being utterly battered and beat hand over fist once again by Alonso...

Kimi Raikonnen, it must surely be his last year then! Or maybe he's just utterly overrated??

Calm down fanboy, I was suggesting he might actually retire.

Kimi isn't over rated, just that his team mate is better :)
 
You really think the Championship is going to go to the end of the season? Rofl f1 noob much? I'd say Rosberg will have the WDC wrapped up well before the end of the season? But try Football if you want end of the season climaxes....maybe F1 isn't for you.

2012, 2010, 2008 and 2007 were all decided by the final race so it's not that unusual, especially with double points at Abu Dhabi this year. Also, as long as Rosberg is in the same car as Hamilton he will never win WDC.
 
Yes but no telemetry and also didn't he have rubber stuck in his front wing so he was losing performance? He did very well to get 2nd.

Multiple cars get rubber in the wing. At his pitstop they didn't remove any rubber from Rosberg's car in the end, just gave him a bit less wing(maybe more but I presume less). Hamilton on the other hand did get rubber removed from the wing during his pitstop. It's happening less this year from what I've seen but not surprising, outside of this known ultra abrasive track there have clearly been far far less marbles.

Rosberg utterly screwed up the start, in fact a terrible start then with EASILY the fastest car on the grid took what 3/4's of the race to pass Alonso in to second. IIRC he got by Ricciardo via pitstops, passed Vettel on track then breezed past Alonso with zero fight or effort at all.

I also can't quite be sure as the replays aren't great. But it looks to me like Rosberg overcooked it into the first corner and ended up drifting wide and smashed Bottas. I say that as in the replay there is a bit of smoke off the front right tire and it looks like he locks it a bit and then his line certainly drifts wider when at that point of the corner it should be getting tighter. So poor start, hit Bottas and passed 2 slower cars... amazing.

Telemetry wise what messages do the team really need except save a bit of fuel or not. Ultimately it resulted in him telling them fuel now and then and they told him it was fine. Every driver pretty much would have driven the same way as all three previous races to save tires and fuel. We've also seen that fuel is no where near the issue people thought it would be and who had significant tire problems today? When the front grip went they all pitted... not particularly difficult there.

Now if the car actually had a problem then lack of telemetry could have been a huge issue. Engine overheating and they couldn't tell him, that kind of thing could have ruined his race.

I would say for Rosberg, very poor first lap, stuck a LONG time behind slower cars, blew ALonso/Vettel away in the final stint where Merc have killed everyone at every race.

The general thing so far has been RBR/Ferrari burning fuel earlier in the race trying to hang on, and later in the race, particularly final stint or final 15 laps dropping back hugely while Merc do the opposite. Are great on fuel till final stint when they put the engines up and watch the gaps increase drastically. Vettel was on the back of Rosberg in Malaysia till the final 10 laps when he dropped back massively.

Outside of the first lap, he was fine but nothing special certainly and the first lap was very poor.
 
Calm down fanboy, I was suggesting he might actually retire.

Kimi isn't over rated, just that his team mate is better :)

I think kimi is possibly rather like Riccy/Vettel argument. The lotus was VERY easy on it's tires last year, great traction and a very smooth car. The Ferrari was a bit of a dog at times. kimi like Vettel might just take a bit longer to get used to it and you can simply look at Hamilton saying the car is so much more comfortable for him to drive this year. New team, new controls, lay outs, settings, feel. Kimi certainly isn't driving well but he's had a pretty damn big change in car style and team, personnel. I think he'll improve but I'm surprised he's been as poor as he has been, same goes for Vettel.

I will be very interested to see if Kimi/Vettel improve a lot as the season goes on vs team mates or if they just can't get to grips with this kind of car.

Of course Kimi not taking things particularly professional doesn't help, spending some time in the simulator getting more used to the car as soon as possible would likely help but he's given his usual response after races to if he'll try the sim a bit more to get more used to it.... nope :p
 
I said last year I thought Kimi's return was over rated. Over blown by sporadic for of grosjean. When he got his act together he was doing fine against kimi. Kimi didn't make enough of that lotus, he drove well within the car and racked up safe points.

He was always stunning if the car worked on friday and all at sea if it wasn't. In a bad ferrari he was good what 30-40% of the races? That's no enough as I said last year to trouble Alonso a drive who I have never seen drive around problems and poor cars better.
 
quick summation for me,

didnt grip me the gp

shame for RG to retire
vettel got dominated again..was webber really that bad?
hamilton seems quite a bit better than rosberg
cant belive the flag fiasco and then changing the final lap because of a flag boy?!

didnt pay much attention as said but alonso impressed the most

that flag boy need flogging
 
vettel got dominated again..was webber really that bad?
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I think if Webber stayed then he would dominate vet this year. The old rules flattered vet and hindered web. I think it's clear that's switched around. Can vet get used to this new era, only time will tell, I wouldn't right him off yet, but next race is 1/4 season mark.
 
Bah, was set to watch qualis and race highlights this evening, but this morning had the radio on and they blurted out the results. Hate it when that that happens. Well, I'll still watch bits of both I guess.

Btw, Jenson says McLaren are not good enough. I'll be surprised frankly if he hasn't started considering defecting to another team for next season, he certainly can't do much worse. He's wasting his time with McLaren other than his earnings.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/27093792
 
Where would he go though?
Merc, rbr and Ferrari are taken.

Unless they get rid of kimi, but would they really want button? I think he would like to go there for a season or two.
Williams, FI etc would be a step back, they don't have the funding.

Tbh I think his best option is to stay with McLaren for next season and just see what Honda and Ron bring to the team. Then either try and get in Ferrari if they get rid of limit, or maybe even retire, although he doesn't look ready for that.
 
vettel got dominated again..was webber really that bad?

no he wasn't, Red Bull just made sure he wouldn't be competitive with Vettel after what happened in the 2010 season. Webber would soon be retiring and they obviously wanted to manufacture Vettel into Schumacher MK2 as the face of Red Bull.

It's obvious that for years Vettel's success has to a large extent been manufactured by a team who have been highly dominant, this year just further confirms suspicions. All you'd need to do is reduce Webber's horsepower by a small amount to get him out of the way, it's a lot harder to do that sort of thing now with fuel flow monitoring.
 
You really think the Championship is going to go to the end of the season? Rofl f1 noob much? I'd say Rosberg will have the WDC wrapped up well before the end of the season? But try Football if you want end of the season climaxes....maybe F1 isn't for you.

Rosberg for the WDC really? After three races getting comprehensively outperformed by his team mate. He's got no answer for hamilton at the moment.
 
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