Cigarette Prices
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When they brought smoking ban in SA in. It was years before it happened in the uk. But they were a lot more reasonable about it. Businesses could make a smoking area in their pub/restaurant, these already existed in most, the new rules were that they had to be a sealed area with separate ventilation. So most restaurants would have a separate area for smokers outside or in a glass room with extraction fans. That way everyone was happy.
When i went to belgium they had no smoking signs in cafe and pubs but they still said you could smoke if you wanted. One cafe i smoked inside the place under a no smoking sign and they brought me an ash tray. Much more reasonable about it.
UK went mad with it, they even banned smoking outside at a lot of places, 2nd hand smoke outdoors is 100% non existent. Unless you are kissing a smoker or trying to inhale it just blows away.
When i went to belgium they had no smoking signs in cafe and pubs but they still said you could smoke if you wanted. One cafe i smoked inside the place under a no smoking sign and they brought me an ash tray. Much more reasonable about it.
UK went mad with it, they even banned smoking outside at a lot of places, 2nd hand smoke outdoors is 100% non existent. Unless you are kissing a smoker or trying to inhale it just blows away.
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Maybe he was hardcore and had about 8 cigs in his mouth at once, all in a line.
If so few have a problem with people killing themselves, why is there a blanket ban on smoking indoors? Surely business owners should decide if they want to allow people to smoke? People who don't smoke or don't like it can simply choose not to go there.
And what were the recent calls for banning it in public places about? There's no way that's purely a health issue.
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Don't smoke, so can't post in thread about smoking? Er, derp?
I didn't state anyone in this thread said anything about the NHS. You ought to invest more time in taking time to read what is written than chomping at a douchey reply.
Has anyone worked out what they have to earn to pay for cigarettes?
Soldato
Banning in confined public spaces, such as restaurants and bars, doesn't class as everywhere and is absolutely just. I'd be surprised if anyone went around knocking on people's doors and blowing in their faces though, now that would be cause for major uproar!
Agreed, I don't understand the view to banning in open spaces though. It doesn't make much sense at all. Perhaps smoking will be outlawed some day.
Not in our life time though.
That's a daft mindset. I don't want lung cancer so I shouldn't be able to enjoy a decent pint in a social setting down my local? Enjoying a few beers is not comparable to inhaling your 2nd hand smoke.
Are you one of those types that just go out to "get rekt on Carling wiv da ladz"?
I think you're being intentionally immature with these comments just to try and get a rise. Maybe you just feel silly that you have this addiction to something quite daft? Take up vaping? I don't even know why I'm replying to you anywaythe government saw common sense years ago by giving people the right not to have to endure 2nd hand tobbacco smoke.
PS, my great grandfather lived well into his 90's, living at home and not a nursing home, enjoying long walks in the countryside, enjoying life fit and able. You shouldn't be so pessimistic banking on 60yrs old. You'll get to that age and wish to the world you had longer.
I'm one of those types who likes drinking proper ale with proper people in a proper pub. Instead of talking about "the gym" and "plankton diets". Seems to be a culture with people these days that you should feel bad for enjoying smoking, drinking and drugs. And you shouldn't, consenting adults can do whatever the **** they want.
I'm baiting one or two people admittedly because I find anti smokers funny. I enjoy smoking and I don't really think I have to apologise for that, same as I enjoy getting drunk, people have enjoyed getting drunk since the invention of alcohol.
What is commonly known today as binge drinking was called a night out not so long ago.
Going for a walk in the countryside isn't really a substitute for the pleasure I get from smoking or drinking.
I have am idea, put a bag over the head of some morally superior idiots, that way, I don't have to hear them complain all day.
Next you'll be telling me I can't swear in the pub because it offends you.
And if you drink soft drinks in the pub, and you're not driving, you need to get your head checked. It's a pub, not yoga class or the enema store.
If you're not drinking ale with bits of soil floating in it then bugger off to the gin bar.
It's not really a "douchey" reply, if you look at the OP it was just asking if, due to the price, anyone had given up smoking. Nothing to do with the smoking ban, or whether anyone was worried about smoking themselves to death or maybe even causing some pompous schmuck down the local pub an inconvenience.
We know smoking doesnt smell great but we like smoking. Most of us are also pretty accommodating and if people complain about the smoking, nicely, then we will move away or blow it in a different direction. We dont walk around blowing it in each others faces lol.
So as for investing more time in reading what it is written then I'd say the same for yourself too Captain.
Anyway, we get you dont like smoking but it doesnt smell as bad as ignorance... boom... take him to the burn ward!!!! lol I do kinda get your points though but I just really dont care, not when your not being forced to be around smokers, you just appear not to appreciate the inconvenience when a smoker comes along and your scared to breathe.
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If i can earn about 45-50k per annum i think i could afford smoking again, at 20 a day. As long as my rent and other outgoings don't increase at the same time, which usually happens when you move up in the pay scale. I have my rent stuck at £650 for a one bedroom, nothing short of a two bed house with a garden for £850 is going to get me to leave there now.
Business owners might see that they make more money allowing people to smoke, since they wont be where the smoke is it will fall to the staff members to inhale toxic fumes who may not have a choice because they require the employment.
banning smoking inside was a very simple and obvious health and safety issue. The only surprising thing was how long the practice existed in the first place.
damn that pricey, being back in Spain I'm lucky, tobacco doesnt cut into my budget but if I was back in the UK I'd probably be stuck at 12.5g a week at the most, maybe 25g a month would be more realistic though.
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Clearly the thread had moved on a long time ago from the OP that you are referencing too. You have just jumped into the thread some what offended by a comment that didn't even concern you. In fact mostly what I see here is sanctimonious self righteous smokers, contrary to the "sanctimonious non-smokers" stated by someone else earlier. Why should the minority (smokers) get the say on whether they can carry out an act that is threatening to me because they enjoy it? The mindset is just absurd. Should I drive at 100mph down the motorway, and overtake on blind bends, and speed through busy towns, because I enjoy it? No, I would be reprimanded, because I am endangering the lives of everyone around me. I shouldn't neeed to be asked nicely by someone who is inconvenienced by this to stop... LOL
Oh, and just for your interest (and where you clearly couldn't use the search function)...
the reason they dont do this is because of all the dollar signs that roll round their eyes when they see the revenue from smokers [no evidence for this but i did hear its more than enough to cover the whole nhs budget and then some, lousy non-smoking nhs scroungers
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Personally I enjoy that I can go into a pub and not come out stinking of dirty stale smoke. Being able to breathe is also a plus.
I don't think there is anything wrong with not wanting people smoking in a pub either. If you don't wan't people drinking alcohol in a pub there might be an issue..
That said, when you could smoke in pubs it didn't bother me from a health point of view, just the smell.
I don't think there is anything wrong with not wanting people smoking in a pub either. If you don't wan't people drinking alcohol in a pub there might be an issue..
That said, when you could smoke in pubs it didn't bother me from a health point of view, just the smell.
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Oh lawd, smoking threatens you does it? Same guy will go sniff some cocaine off a toilet seat then be all high and mighty about a bit of smoke in his presence.
I think the biggest inconvenience smoking ever caused anyone was the smell. I will always be of the opinion that outright indoor smoking ban is unreasonable because it should be up to the property owners. If a pub wants to allow smoking then the customers either go some where else if they feel threatened by it or they go there anyway. There is no reason for the government to come in and force that kind of thing on to businesses. Its just unreasonable.
I always wondered how the expensive cigar lounges coped with the tobacco bans, i bet they were exempt from it because i know a few of those self righteous politicians like a cigar.
I don't see why someone has to care about other people health though. This is something that i never understood. If someone wants to smoke cigs that is their choice.
I think the biggest inconvenience smoking ever caused anyone was the smell. I will always be of the opinion that outright indoor smoking ban is unreasonable because it should be up to the property owners. If a pub wants to allow smoking then the customers either go some where else if they feel threatened by it or they go there anyway. There is no reason for the government to come in and force that kind of thing on to businesses. Its just unreasonable.
I always wondered how the expensive cigar lounges coped with the tobacco bans, i bet they were exempt from it because i know a few of those self righteous politicians like a cigar.
I don't see why someone has to care about other people health though. This is something that i never understood. If someone wants to smoke cigs that is their choice.
Soldato
You just keep that kind of discussion to the internet don't you, judging by the 5-a-day thread, and anything else I might dig up in your posting history? Proper conversation with proper people down the pub eh?
If I don't smoke, does it mean I can't be a proper person?
Well maybe the thread has moved on but I didnt really just "jump into the thread" I started the thread lol. And like I have mentioned a few times, I only wanted to know how many people had been forced to quit due to price rather than due to wanting to quit.
Theres plenty of smokers that only smoke in their own house and not in public even before the ban. To be honest, when I was back in the UK this summer, I heard more people complain about the smoking in a beer garden and designated smoking areas outside as it was a "nice day" and they shouldnt have to suffer... even though I mainly heard that on a huge row of bars where the weather was the same outside all of them and there were only smokers outside less than half of them... just people not happy to be inconvenienced like I say. Well done for finding the search feature too!! As for driving at 100mph... way to fly off the deep end and become very very childish lmao... i didnt realise walking past a non smoker would cause as much offence as over taking someone on a blind corner and nearly killing them.
Also smoking is my one vice as it is for many. I dont drive yet when I walk down the street I breathe in way more chemicals etc that can ruin my lungs way more in a month than I can cause by offering around my 2nd hand smoke (im guessing you thing we walk up to people and demand they take it from us) can ever to a person.
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You just keep that kind of discussion to the internet don't you, judging by the 5-a-day thread, and anything else I might dig up in your posting history? Proper conversation with proper people down the pub eh?
He's a real bloke. Only real blokes eat their 5-a-day.
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i do miss them days
You just keep that kind of discussion to the internet don't you, judging by the 5-a-day thread, and anything else I might dig up in your posting history? Proper conversation with proper people down the pub eh?
I eat proper food. I can't discuss the fact I don't live on **** like some chav?
If I don't smoke, does it mean I can't be a proper person?
If you complain about smoking then probably not.