Civilization V

from what ive been reading.

can not join an existing game and take over an AI civ :rolleyes:

no combat animations in multiplayer :rolleyes:

if you get disconnected from a game the only way back in is via a steam invite from the host :rolleyes:

no chat room in the lobby :rolleyes:
the lobby is split across the 87 different steam download regions :rolleyes:

just seems like multiplayer was an afterthough and bodged on?

how can it be worse than civ iv for multiplayer i dont get it the net code is porobably almost the same

will not be buying this unless they make multiplayer proper like civ IV
 
Well, people on Civfanatics just found out how to make Babylon even more broken:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=382651

You can save up all your policies after taking aristocracy for +33% wonder production, rush to acoustics using Great Scientists to unlock the Renaissance era along with the Freedom branch, and take +100% culture per city with a wonder, -25% social policy costs (reduces the cost for your saved up points too hereafter), -1 food consumed per specialist, +50% great person birth rate (furthermore halves the cost of getting great scientists):

I snagged acoustics through a research pact right on the turn before finishing Porcelain Tower:





And now I have *TWO* Great Scientists arguning over what they should research next:



:X THIS IS BROKEN!!!!!
 
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Japan went to war with me again. Got stuck on the same narrow bit of land as before, if it wasn't for that I'd easily be beaten.

Offered me a peace treaty and about 10,000 gold.

Accepted it, bought an army with the money and then destroyed them. :rolleyes:
 
Cavallino said:
Sorry bhavv what aspect of Babylon is broken exactly? Im not sure I follow.
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Erm, well, maybe this screenshot will explain:





Babylons UA is a free great scientist at writing, plus double great scientist (GS) spawn rate. You can use these to 'slingshot' acoustics which unlocks the freedom branch, and from saving up all your social policies gain another double spawn rate for great people (GP) along with cheapening all your future social polices (no one else can get to the freedom branch as quick).

You simply build any wonder that provides GS points in Babylon, along with a library and use the scientist slots for +6 GS points, plus National Epic (+25% GP points), a Garden (+33% GP points), and if you can, the Hagia Sophia wonder in your second city (+33% GP spawn rate).

And then you get flooded with great scientists that can immediately research any tech.
 
bhavv said:
Erm, well, maybe this screenshot will explain:





Babylons UA is a free great scientist at writing, plus double great scientist (GS) spawn rate. You can use these to 'slingshot' acoustics which unlocks the freedom branch, and from saving up all your social policies gain another double spawn rate for great people (GP) along with cheapening all your future social polices (no one else can get to the freedom branch as quick).

You simply build any wonder that provides GS points in Babylon, along with a library and use the scientist slots for +6 GS points, plus National Epic (+25% GP points), a Garden (+33% GP points), and if you can, the Hagia Sophia wonder in your second city (+33% GP spawn rate).

And then you get flooded with great scientists that can immediately research any tech.
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Ah so basically in generalisation, you are describing a Tech rush?
If so that is very nice :)
 
bhavv said:
Nice for the human player, but far more powerful than any of the other Civs.
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But surely thats the idea behind Civ? I.e. no one avenue towards victory is a surefire way? I.e. in your example, since you have to invest production in GS related buildings surely other savy Civs would pick up on the threat and go "military" against you?
 
Cavallino said:
But surely thats the idea behind Civ? I.e. no one avenue towards victory is a surefire way? I.e. in your example, since you have to invest production in GS related buildings surely other savy Civs would pick up on the threat and go "military" against you?
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No not really, I can use them up right now to bulb Gunpowder, and then I'll have 16 strength muskets defending against 7 str spearmen.

The tech lead also gives you a military lead, even with fewer units.

Actually, I can go all the way to Metalurgy and Chemisry and get Lancers and Cannons centuries before anyone else can.
 
bhavv said:
No not really, I can use them up right now to bulb Gunpowder, and then I'll have 16 strength muskets defending against 7 str spearmen.

The tech lead also gives you a military lead, even with fewer units.

Actually, I can go all the way to Metalurgy and Chemisry and get Lancers and Cannons centuries before anyone else can.
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But thats the inherent catch 22. You cant be building GS buildings AND military units, well you could but then thats not "tech-rushing" since you will be devoting some of your cities to churning out military units?

I.e. your opponents have a much more military established prescence albeit lower down the tech tiers.

You see what Im getting at?
 
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I am not sure about this. Been playing it yesterday and my first thoughts were "this is a dumbed down Civ".

I did find it strangely compelling though. I do THINK I prefer the combat in this. On balance though I am veering more towards the complexity of Civ IV
 
Argh i need to stop reading this thread. Its making me want to buy the game which would be a waste of time because my gfs pc can barely run it on min settings without terribly slow loading, hiccups and graphics anomolies.

Is it any surprise that the preorder bonus turns out to be utterly broken :rolleyes:
 
The fan on my 4870 goes really loud as well when playing this game. It does the same on the campaign map of Napoleon Total War, but not on the battle map.
 
Any thoughts on how this will run on my laptop? 3GB RAM, 2.2Ghz C2D, and an ATI 4570.

I don't want to have to wait to go home to my desktop at Christmas to play :(

Considering going and purchasing this soon, so if anyone could advise it would be appreciated.
 
manic111 said:
Any thoughts on how this will run on my laptop? 3GB RAM, 2.2Ghz C2D, and an ATI 4570.

I don't want to have to wait to go home to my desktop at Christmas to play :(

Considering going and purchasing this soon, so if anyone could advise it would be appreciated.
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I should think it would run smoothly on low settings but i wouldn't expect it to be a looker and it might slow down later game. You could always download the demo and check using that. Worst case you could stick to playing smaller maps so theres less AI to worry about. 1.8GHz dual core, 3gb RAM and X1950 PRO can barely run it. It CAN run it but you'd struggle to put up with it. Then this is a desktop, never that good with Laptop Specs...
 
They were kind of my thoughts...might have to stick it out with Civ IV for the time being, don't want to buy it and have it run like dirt.
 
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