Yes, it's called SSAD or Summer Seasonal Affective Disorder. Or Reverse SAD. I have it too. I detest this time of year.
I went into therapy for a year because of it.
Poll: Clocks go forward this weekend (27th) (stupid, stupid, dumb BST)
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Yes, it's called SSAD or Summer Seasonal Affective Disorder. Or Reverse SAD. I have it too. I detest this time of year.
I went into therapy for a year because of it.
Spain (and South Africa) lie on the same meridian as the UK.
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Stupid, stupid BST.
We'll say goodbye to GMT for the summer, we'll be back to idiots quoting GMT when they don't understand the difference, we'll be back to confusion and madness.
We invented time, we invented Greenwich, we invented longitude and we invented clocks*. It's only right that we should be on proper GMT all year round.
BST, you can do one. You're not wanted here.
*some of this may not be entirely factual
It was a wartime thing introduced to help farmers with increased daylight hours but it was never revoked. It takes me a good week to readjust spend most of the week being an hour out with everything it plays havok with the old bodyclock even managed to oversleep for work at least once and even turned up to the supermarket an hour before they opened in the past (sunday)
Because people love to moan for utterly pointless reasons. Give them a sense of purpose maybe.
It just always causes problems somewhere doesn't it. There will be some server, somewhere that bites you on the Monday morning where some job didn't run, or did run or is out of sync. Then weeks later you'll be troubleshooting something and check log timestamps battling with stupid American date formats, only to think you have it all figured out when suddenly it dawns on you that the server is still running GMT time mucking up the whole log timeline of what happened! The struggles of date and time in IT in the UK!
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They do partially, most of Spain is west of 0. Madrid for example is 4 degrees west more inline with Plymouth.
So perhaps you can see why Spain isn't in the correct/best time zone It's CET rather than GMT. The only reason it went to CET was due to Franco who moved it away from GMT. Ideally it would be the same time zone as Portugal and Morocco. As it is it's often dark until late in the morning and light past 9pm.
This is something that would have been fixed by the EUs plan to abolish DST. Each country could choose their time zone, but had to be inline with neighbours. This was supposed to come in 2021 but Brexit and covid took centre stage.
Ireland also moaned, since the UK wouldn't be government by the change and could in theory choose any time zone it wished, thus seeing a difference in time zones on the isle of Ireland. As such I imagine as things stand now, whatever the UK does with DST Ireland will just copy it.
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But there's the same amount of daylight? No?
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This x100000000
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Lack of flexibility in the workplace makes the summer time much less depressing!
yes, vut if we didn't change clocks then in 3 weeks then sunrise would be 5am,which gives several hours of daylight before going to work.
It just always causes problems somewhere doesn't it. There will be some server, somewhere that bites you on the Monday morning where some job didn't run, or did run or is out of sync. Then weeks later you'll be troubleshooting something and check log timestamps battling with stupid American date formats, only to think you have it all figured out when suddenly it dawns on you that the server is still running GMT time mucking up the whole log timeline of what happened! The struggles of date and time in IT in the UK!
Some people like BST, me for instance, some don’t, we’re all entitled to an opinion, but what’s with the “stupid” American date formats?
It’s not stupid, it’s just the way that they write them, if I see 3/23/22 I know that they are talking about the 23rd of March 1922, it’s hardly rocket science.
You may as well say the Portuguese are stupid for calling Lisbon Lisboa, or the Poles for calling Warsaw Warszawa.
Sure but decidedly less clear if the day is anything from 1-12, eg 3/4/22
I think the notion that it’s “stupid” simply comes from the majority of the world favouring the other format, and there is an argument that it’s more logical to go from smallest unit to largest in order (or indeed vice versa as per the ISO date format) rather than middle unit, smallest unit, largest unit which doesn’t appear logical.
That said, ultimately it comes down to convention and whatever you are used to, although world wide it is clear DD/MM/YY or YYYY/MM/DD is preferred.
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It honestly doesn't bother me. In winter you mainly spend more time indoors so to have lighter mornings is far more beneficial for me at least. Having lighter evenings is great in summer because the weather allows for outdoor activities.
Do people really want it to be dark till nearly 9am in winter if we have picked bst as our timezone. Likewise in the summer it would suck not being able to have bbq's till 10pm with still reasonable light if we picked the other.
Just pre plan and book holiday for when the time goes forward. No one ever argues about an extra hour in bed.
Do people really want it to be dark till nearly 9am in winter if we have picked bst as our timezone. Likewise in the summer it would suck not being able to have bbq's till 10pm with still reasonable light if we picked the other.
Just pre plan and book holiday for when the time goes forward. No one ever argues about an extra hour in bed.
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as a software guy, I hate cultures. (ooo racist) no.. cultures are the things that define how things appear to different people. e.g. date formats, number formats, currencies, etc.
As with timezones and dst, the problem with cultures is 99% people don't understand them.
For dates, you get Americans (who think they're the centre of the universe) writing code to output 3/4/2022 for March 4th on a website used by British people who read it as April 3rd.
This is why software people write 2022-03-04, or 4th March 2022, so it can't be misunderstood.
For numbers, you get countries using , instead of . for decimals. So 12.34 becomes 12,34.
Which isn't so confusing except what do they do for thousands? E.g. 1,234.56 becomes 1 234,56 or 1.234.56.
And if it's a currency where does the symbol go? E.g. £12.34 can become 12€34.
And before you know it you have to maintain a list of all this crap. (or use one already made by someone else)
And you can't even read half the documentation because it's in languages you don't speak or your computer doesn't have the language pack for so you never even know if you've got it right. gg
As with timezones and dst, the problem with cultures is 99% people don't understand them.
For dates, you get Americans (who think they're the centre of the universe) writing code to output 3/4/2022 for March 4th on a website used by British people who read it as April 3rd.
This is why software people write 2022-03-04, or 4th March 2022, so it can't be misunderstood.
For numbers, you get countries using , instead of . for decimals. So 12.34 becomes 12,34.
Which isn't so confusing except what do they do for thousands? E.g. 1,234.56 becomes 1 234,56 or 1.234.56.
And if it's a currency where does the symbol go? E.g. £12.34 can become 12€34.
And before you know it you have to maintain a list of all this crap. (or use one already made by someone else)
And you can't even read half the documentation because it's in languages you don't speak or your computer doesn't have the language pack for so you never even know if you've got it right. gg
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What if it's 3/4/22? And how do you know if it's 1922 or 2022?
I grew up in South Africa from 14 to 18 and the maths teachers using a comma as a decimal point took a bit of getting used to.