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There is absolutely no way I could moderate it any way mate. Look in the BF3 thread.....it would take me a month .
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There is absolutely no way I could moderate it any way mate. Look in the BF3 thread.....it would take me a month .
Soldato
When did I say anything of the sort?
I'd quite like some kind of action to be sure the same thing doesn't happen again when he's feeling angsty and need to flex his power. If that doesn't happen it doesn't happen.But an apology would be a different thing altogether, even if it's just to Neil.
There is absolutely no way I could moderate it any way mate. Look in the BF3 thread.....it would take me a month .
So you're saying the rule will only apply to regular offenders and people who actively encourage to buy elsewhere?
Because I'm OK with that.
Commissario
When did I say anything of the sort?
But an apology would be a different thing altogether, even if it's just to Neil.
The way it doesn't happen again is some kind of discussion with me first.
As for my "hung" comment sorry, I didn't intend for it to sound like that.
I will have a word in his ear.
Commissario
I would be inclined to say the rules apply to persons who suggest buying the product elsewhere.
Basically yes.
When did I say anything of the sort?
But an apology would be a different thing altogether, even if it's just to Neil.
I don't think portraying Neil as martyr is relevant in this case.
If valkia is to apologise, it should be to the whole Gaming community here as we were all treated a little unfair.
What I expect from Mods and Dons in the future is better communication between them and us members and discussing certain issues that arise, especially if they are controversial rules like these.
There was an aweful lot of confusion regarding the rules and some Dons weren't even bothered to discuss that but were rather keen on ignoring the reasonable voices and picking on what they didn't like which is not exactly a professional way of dealing with such issues.
So will the el-awesomo steam holiday sales be a thing of the past for discussion on this forum? or some kind of self moderation of everyone having to check what you have in stock first before posting in them?
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Soldato
Don't get me wrong, I agree. I just think one to Neil should be expected as the least thing, holding him to ransom was just wrong imo.
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Soldato
How hard is it to just take on board the S storm that has happened have a word with him and get to come and give an apology. We dont want the guy fired or anything but what we dont expect or think should happen as you all just go tra la la la as if nothing happened as that would just be making us look like fools.
But you do realise that sharing info on cheap gaming deals is only helping to sell hardware here at OcUK and that we always recommend buying stuff here because we know the benefits of dealing with the next delivery service, having support of other members if issues arise and being able to use your before and after sales Customer Service.
On the other hand, with games you don't benefit from any of that and if your business (or to better wrap it up in words, your employers' business) is going to sell any games to the forum members, they must be competitive price-wise.
Hardware isn't even Amazon's primary business and I don't think anyone looks for it over there. Most people would probably use one of the alternatives your shop is following on Twitter IMO.
I know you're in a hard position here as you're a part of this community but moreover, you're an OcUK employee.
If you do however feel like helping us out, bring the specific issue up of PC Gaming deals to whomever is responsible for the financial side of the business and raise the issue of PC Gaming deals improving OcUK sales in general.
Anyone who buys a hardware heavy game and wants some advice on an upgrade, gets a list of components that he or she can purchase from your store.
Nobody is gonna look for games in your store though as:
a) you're not competitive price-wise
b) you don't advertise them enough
c) your range is somewhat laughable
d) don't have enough stock
It doesn't matter if people know of other etailers or not, you surely are not one of the places to look out for bargains and that is something you can't argue with.
OcUK must realise that you stock less games than a private ebay seller!
It was kind of pathetic and you'd expect this kind of a behaviour from an underaged moderator of a private forum but certainly not from a medium of the largest computer hardware e-tailer in the UK.
You must remember that valkie was under a great pressure here, though, and maybe he just followed orders and did his job.
He did it badly but I doubt we will find out the whole truth about this story anyway.
I hope OcUK HQ don't find the latter option as the way of keeping it cool.
It certainly wouldn't help any problems that arised.
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This tbh. I don't get why this is so difficult?
Also, what Mr Krugga said above, agree 100%.
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Just to clarify I don't work for OcUk. I do this all of my own back.
Soldato
Nobody is saying he should be fired, simply an apology and his Status on the forum down-graded to less power, i.e, not a Don which he has proved he cannot be responsible with as an employee of the company.
Unless you are implying you cannot be an employee of the company unless you are a Don which makes no sense. Maybe I misunderstood your post in which case I apologise.
His actions as a Don cannot be defended and he needs to face the music for that instead of the constant calls for it to be swept under the carpet, that is akin to treating us all like fools.
Soldato
Wow this thread is one helluva storm in a teacup. Can't we just lock it and have done with the whole sorry affair.
People don't want this to happen, becuase they want to be assured that Valkia is gonna be stopped from doing this again. It's not just about how they treated forum members, it's how they're acting as representatives of the company they work for, like I said in this post:
"I have to say, that doesn't begin to excuse what happened really. This whole situation has highlited the fact that Valkia isn't fit to be a moderator at all, and I think OcUK need to remind him that as an employee, he's also part of the face of the company so the impressions he gives out, it's very important that it's the right one and not make a show of himself and act like a manchild.
Let's not forget Nath's "Only 10%" as well, that's something you really just don't say to your customers. It's extremely disrespectful, it shouldn't matter how small a customer base is, it's a customer base. We could go elsewhere rather than give OcUK the privalege of our custom, afterall a shop is nothing but a storage room without its customers."
I would be very surprised if Spie wasn't actually insulted by some of the comments from Nath and Valkia, and Nath's comments actually completely contradict the competitor rule anyway...
Soldato
This wouldn't happen if hurduf was a mod
Soldato
If this whole matter is swept under the carpet and the forum is accused of blowing it out of proportion which I fear is what will happen, will anybody be voting with their wallets?
We have allready been told that Valkia claimed he was being "trolled" so that alone should give an idea of what to expect.
We have allready been told that Valkia claimed he was being "trolled" so that alone should give an idea of what to expect.
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It will not be swept under the carpet, Gibbo is going to be sorting it out tomorrow so wait and see what happens then.
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