'Contact lost' with Malaysia Airlines plane

So how deep is it:

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It would be crazy but very unlikely. I would say it hit hard which means the plane would have obliterated upon impact. Any wreckage by now would have moved away or sunk.

If these signals turn out to be nothing I doubt they will ever find it.

Doesn't necessarily have to have hit hard. Even if it wasn't steered down gently after the fuel ran out it may have glided down under its own accord and hit the water relatively gently, causing little wreckage. It's unlikely to be in one piece on the seabed though as the water would have seen it ripped apart as it went down.

That could explain why there has been no wreckage found.
 
It wouldn't come down gently after fuel tanks emptying unless it was steered by a very very good pilot. Even then the chances of it not breaking up is very slim IMO. Not sure if these pings will turn out to be anything but I find it incredibly strange that not a single piece of wreckage, luggage, cushion seat or anything has been found. Granted larger wreckage would now have probably sunk but in all likely hood there would have been thousands of bits of debris obviously which now would potentially be hundreds of miles apart though. Must be so hard on the families not knowing all this time.
 
The 777 has electro-hydraulic flying controls. So running out of fuel means they loose the main generators. On emergency power with the Rat deployed they would have very minimal control over the Aircraft.

This is why I predict it hit hard. If it did fly until it ran out of fuel that is....
 
It wouldn't come down gently after fuel tanks emptying unless it was steered by a very very good pilot. Even then the chances of it not breaking up is very slim IMO. Not sure if these pings will turn out to be anything but I find it incredibly strange that not a single piece of wreckage, luggage, cushion seat or anything has been found. Granted larger wreckage would now have probably sunk but in all likely hood there would have been thousands of bits of debris obviously which now would potentially be hundreds of miles apart though. Must be so hard on the families not knowing all this time.

A softer landing would reduce the amount of wreckage significantly, a few bits of metal here and there but the rest going down in one piece to break up hundreds of metres down and continue on its way to the seabed. That could be one explanation for the lack of wreckage. As already shown in this thread a modern plane landing on the sea after running out of fuel is reasonably possible, especially one that would minimise the spread of wreckage.

Admittedly it would be more likely with a good pilot but so far all the evidence seems to point to it being deliberately flown to this point. If the final act was to try and make the plane "vanish" forever then a soft landing with minimal wreckage makes sense.
 
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I find it incredibly strange that not a single piece of wreckage, luggage, cushion seat or anything has been found.

I don't, that areas home to some of the fastest sea currents on the planet, a piece of floating wreckage can travel over 100 miles in 24hrs there, add to that they were looking in completely the wrong place to start with, & the sea state was so bad that seaching was put on hold for a few days till the weather calmed.

Any floating wreckage would've been long gone in a matter of days given the conditions & local currents.
 
Last thought from me....There was a CT nut job who questioned why they needed the Ocean Sheild to tow such a small tiny Pinger Locator. Whilst I admit, it's pretty chunky vessel, I assume that an object of relative size so far down being pulled would create an immense amount of drag which a smaller boat would struggle to overcome?
 
Last thought from me....There was a CT nut job who questioned why they needed the Ocean Sheild to tow such a small tiny Pinger Locator. Whilst I admit, it's pretty chunky vessel, I assume that an object of relative size so far down being pulled would create an immense amount of drag which a smaller boat would struggle to overcome?

Isn't it because the ocean shield has the submersible's on board to go and get the thing once found?
 
Last thought from me....There was a CT nut job who questioned why they needed the Ocean Sheild to tow such a small tiny Pinger Locator. Whilst I admit, it's pretty chunky vessel, I assume that an object of relative size so far down being pulled would create an immense amount of drag which a smaller boat would struggle to overcome?

I'd also assume it has something to do with pressure from being so far down increasing the drag too (but you might have meant that too)
 
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