The Asus Gene looks impressive for power delivery and is the only mATX to sport 8+8 pins for the CPU. It is more like an oversized Mini ITX though than a true mATX.
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Here's a handy list of current Z390 motherboards available at launch for those that aren't focused on moaning about a price we've all been aware of for ages.
Time to grab a coffee and suss out the options.
Time to grab a coffee and suss out the options.
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Just spotted this, I've had a couple of Gene boards in the past and they've been rock solid.
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WTF are you talking about?
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Retailers are just outright being greedy and trying to make as much profit as possible , its total BS when a retailer says they are hardly making anything on a newly released product that is in short supply , but high demand , one such example i read here in this thread earlier when someone said that O/C had the 9900k @ £600 but another retailer had it for £550 , but yip you guessed it that never lasted any length of time until that same retailer had raised their price to £600 as well , thus making an EXTRA £50 profit straight away.
The death of PC gaming will be down to these extorinate prices that seem to be effecting the major items in a PC , CPU,RAM, GPU.
The death of PC gaming will be down to these extorinate prices that seem to be effecting the major items in a PC , CPU,RAM, GPU.
I'm not convinced; PC gaming gives you the option of better performance/visuals than consoles if you are prepared to pay, or alternatively you can target lower end of the spectrum / older gear to save money and get parity with consoles. You really don't need these high end cpus for gaming, nice to have for sure, but plenty of adequate cheaper ones around. In recent years we've seen a drive for higher resolutions and refresh rates due to monitor tech improving, but really if you said ok I want to play 1080p @ 60hz how much power would you need from a PC to get something looking as good as consoles, not all that much really. Part of the attraction of PC gaming is you can totally customise your hardware setup, so unlike consoles you can set the ceiling on your spend as high or low as you like. A 16 thread intel chip at 5ghz is massive overkill for gaming, any game that really takes advantage of that is going to suck on a console anyway in relative terms, so the choice isn't "console of 9900k", it is "console or 9900k or something cheaper that performs as well or better than a console at something more akin to the pricing that PC gaming has sustained for years".
PC gaming has always cost more than consoles, and who knows what the next generation of consoles will cost, maybe they will be hit by rising hardware costs too.
Back in the day (from original playstation through to the Wii), games consoles cost around $199-299 typically (more favourable exchange rate then too), and a gaming PC was way more than that, and the death knell was called for PC gaming more than once, but still it survived.
Well OCUK has the 9700 for £500 and the 9900 for £600...
Interesting snippet from Tom’s preview testing of some Z390 boards.
“The best reason to pick one of the new Z390 boards over its predecessors might be that the voltage regulator cooling is designed for eight-core processors, at least at stock speeds. We found that every board needed direct fan cooling at the voltage regulator to overclock, but also found that every Z370 board needed direct fan cooling simply to run our eight-core processor at stock speed.”
“The best reason to pick one of the new Z390 boards over its predecessors might be that the voltage regulator cooling is designed for eight-core processors, at least at stock speeds. We found that every board needed direct fan cooling at the voltage regulator to overclock, but also found that every Z370 board needed direct fan cooling simply to run our eight-core processor at stock speed.”
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OCUK are wanting £390 for the I5-9600K, worth it for the solder alone.
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That’s a higher markup than on the 9900k.....
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Well the 9900K can be pre ordered for Total cost of £501.78 which includes Import fees deposit. However it is 2-4 days delivery. Without import fees the cost is £404.69.
There is no need to buy from a UK retailer who presences is just the UK market.... Only a fool would overpay £100. 2-4 day wait is worth the saving...
There is no need to buy from a UK retailer who presences is just the UK market.... Only a fool would overpay £100. 2-4 day wait is worth the saving...
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Even with import fees that's cheaper than you can get here.. what a joke.
What is warranty like?
In the UK I see it on a site with roughly the same name as me for £535
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I got shot down for suggesting you would need the 390 series boards to run the 9900k and OC it lol..
This whole release has been an absolute joke
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Overclocking beast
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-core-i9-9900k-overclock-6.9ghz,37903.html
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https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-core-i9-9900k-overclock-6.9ghz,37903.html
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Some z370 boards like the top 3 asrock boards have very good VRMs, which were considered overkill for the 8xxx chips.
Gigabyte improved a lot but thats because their z370 boards were a poor baseline.
This is what I have done, I’ll decide over the next few days whether to keep it or not. Comes to £495 with standard shipping. The 9700K comes to £396.