COVID-19 (Coronavirus) discussion

[Werewolf]

wow, are you vaccinated?

Hopefully he remembered to listen to three tracks before he went.

Watched Ed Sheeran (wife is a fan) and we both tested positive the next day. Cue three weeks later and I am over the worst of it, but if I stand up and walk a few steps, I feel faint and dizzy. It's not nice.

Hope you start to get fully better soon, in the mean time take it as easy as you can, and if it continues definitely see a quack about it in case there is something else wrong, or it's done something.

 

[Werewolf]

I think that's always been the endgame to put this to bed tbh.

And it's an increadibly stupid one given what we know of covid now, and that it's still putting people who are at higher risk in the way of serious potential harm

Not to mention it's stupid from a business point of view as it's just going to mean the staff continually get infected and either you end up sacking everyone for being off too often (which is not something you can do in a lot of businesses, and requires expensive hiring/training even "just" for a McDonalds job*), or keep having your productivity go down the drain because you're understaffed/staff are too ill to work properly.


*Even "unskilled" jobs tend to take time for people to learn the ropes and get good at doing them efficiently.

 

[opethian]

Hope you start to get fully better soon, in the mean time take it as easy as you can, and if it continues definitely see a quack about it in case there is something else wrong, or it's done something.

Thank you kind person

 

[Pez]

Normally been hovering at 95 but this last few weeks i it has dropped.
I'm taking a pic a day so when i get to the docs they don't try and fob me off with let's see how it goes for a while

That 4% drop may seem small but it's pretty significant, you are on the edge of hypoxia. If you don't suffer from COPD/similar I'd 100% be getting some help. I'm pretty sure calling 111 would cause pathways to guide you towards emergency care.

 

[cheesefest]

True, we have such a silly system in this country with frankly insulting levels of sick pay compared to our neighbours.

Silly - employee has 5 years without a day off. Then has a bad year of sickness. Many employers use 3 periods of sickness in a rolling year and disciplinary action. Those five years count for nothing.

Employers don’t count surgeries towards it.

The format used by many employers is to prevent employees to pull sickies.

Though some people take the p!ss with sickness. One colleague, my colleague and I worked out she only worked 5-6 months since the pandemic. She claimed to need 8 weeks off for reaction for one of her vaccines. Whereas the whole store probably colleagues having 5 weeks combined. I had 2 days off with my booster. As couldn’t get any strength in my left arm and hand.

 

[almoststew1990]

Well I'm now positive after dodging it for 2.5 years. Just been to France for a wedding for a few days, no idea how many people I would have unknowingly given it to if you can still spread it symptomless - I felt fine the entire time.

Feel worse than I thought I would tbh. I guess my last vaccine was around Christmas?

 

[Rroff]

I'm amazed I've still not had it yet - especially as ironically when taking 2 weeks off work to try and dodge the rising cases at work I ended up more exposed to it due to unexpected stuff happening with family and car trouble/buying an additional vehicle.

She claimed to need 8 weeks off for reaction for one of her vaccines

Some people blatantly take the mick with sickness - but we've had a couple of people at work with genuine reactions to the vaccines which took a few weeks to clear before they were comfortably able to come back to work. (Both had a worse reoccurrence of the same thing with the second jab so very likely vaccine related).

 

[Freefaller]

True, we have such a silly system in this country with frankly insulting levels of sick pay compared to our neighbours.

Imagine if this was America!

 

[Freefaller]

I'm amazed I've still not had it yet - especially as ironically when taking 2 weeks off work to try and dodge the rising cases at work I ended up more exposed to it due to unexpected stuff happening with family and car trouble/buying an additional vehicle.



Some people blatantly take the mick with sickness - but we've had a couple of people at work with genuine reactions to the vaccines which took a few weeks to clear before they were comfortably able to come back to work. (Both had a worse reoccurrence of the same thing with the second jab so very likely vaccine related).

Are you sure you're not like me and others that have had it but completely asymptotically?

The only reason I know was when I had the delta strain and did the antibody test.

 

[Rroff]

Are you sure you're not like me and others that have had it but completely asymptotically?

I can't be sure.

 

[Freefaller]

I can't be sure.

Yeah it's annoying. It either means you need to test everyday (and even if they were free nobody's got time for that), or you haven't had it and it's just one of those things that are inevitable.

It's a shame it's not like chicken pox where once you've had it you're almost completely protected.

 

[200sols]

And it's an increadibly stupid one given what we know of covid now, and that it's still putting people who are at higher risk in the way of serious potential harm

Not to mention it's stupid from a business point of view as it's just going to mean the staff continually get infected and either you end up sacking everyone for being off too often (which is not something you can do in a lot of businesses, and requires expensive hiring/training even "just" for a McDonalds job*), or keep having your productivity go down the drain because you're understaffed/staff are too ill to work properly.


*Even "unskilled" jobs tend to take time for people to learn the ropes and get good at doing them efficiently.

Will you be presenting an alternative solution then?

 

[cheesefest]

I'm amazed I've still not had it yet - especially as ironically when taking 2 weeks off work to try and dodge the rising cases at work I ended up more exposed to it due to unexpected stuff happening with family and car trouble/buying an additional vehicle.



Some people blatantly take the mick with sickness - but we've had a couple of people at work with genuine reactions to the vaccines which took a few weeks to clear before they were comfortably able to come back to work. (Both had a worse reoccurrence of the same thing with the second jab so very likely vaccine related).

She’s taking the mick. We want her to be dismissed then my manager will be able to recruit. As only can recruit if dept falls short of x hours. If she’s dismissed then her hours would reach x hours plus 8 hours then recruit.

She’s job blocking and only getting ssp

 

[cheesefest]

And it's an increadibly stupid one given what we know of covid now, and that it's still putting people who are at higher risk in the way of serious potential harm

Not to mention it's stupid from a business point of view as it's just going to mean the staff continually get infected and either you end up sacking everyone for being off too often (which is not something you can do in a lot of businesses, and requires expensive hiring/training even "just" for a McDonalds job*), or keep having your productivity go down the drain because you're understaffed/staff are too ill to work properly.


*Even "unskilled" jobs tend to take time for people to learn the ropes and get good at doing them efficiently.

It takes about 4 months for someone to be trained up and can be left on their own in the kiosk. As they need to feel confident to be in the kiosk before they are trained on customer service desk.

 

[cheesefest]

Yeah it's annoying. It either means you need to test everyday (and even if they were free nobody's got time for that), or you haven't had it and it's just one of those things that are inevitable.

It's a shame it's not like chicken pox where once you've had it you're almost completely protected.

Think only those in certain industries tested themselves regularly (NHS, care work). I’m sure some employers will ask asymptomatic employees to work. As there’s nothing wrong with them

 

[UTmaniac]

Some people blatantly take the mick with sickness - but we've had a couple of people at work with genuine reactions to the vaccines which took a few weeks to clear before they were comfortably able to come back to work. (Both had a worse reoccurrence of the same thing with the second jab so very likely vaccine related).

Ironically, the two OxAz and Pf booster vaccines all hit me harder for ~2 weeks than the only time I've knowingly had Covid back in mid March '20, they absolutely flawed me and some scary stuff was going on after the first vaccination. I had my first ever flu jab last year and colleagues jokingly expected me to be off afterwards, but it had nothing like the adverse reaction of the Covid jabs and I attended work as normal.

 

[Tephnos]

I'm amazed I've still not had it yet - especially as ironically when taking 2 weeks off work to try and dodge the rising cases at work I ended up more exposed to it due to unexpected stuff happening with family and car trouble/buying an additional vehicle.



Some people blatantly take the mick with sickness - but we've had a couple of people at work with genuine reactions to the vaccines which took a few weeks to clear before they were comfortably able to come back to work. (Both had a worse reoccurrence of the same thing with the second jab so very likely vaccine related).

Do you have a food allergy?

 

[Tephnos]

Ironically, the two OxAz and Pf booster vaccines all hit me harder for ~2 weeks than the only time I've knowingly had Covid back in mid March '20, they absolutely flawed me and some scary stuff was going on after the first vaccination. I had my first ever flu jab last year and colleagues jokingly expected me to be off afterwards, but it had nothing like the adverse reaction of the Covid jabs and I attended work as normal.

Interesting. The 2xAZ jabs floored me that night (well, I had cold shivers, felt a bit crap), and my Pfizer booster was nothing but a sore arm that was gone the next day. Much better/

My Flu jab last year hit me as hard if the AZ if not worse.

 

[Werewolf]

Will you be presenting an alternative solution then?

Well lets put it this way the inflexible "too may periods of time off due to health" has been stupid since the first time it was introduced in any industry, IIRC the ambulance service used to apply the same policy to both office bound staff who sat at desks all day, and the actual ambulance staff who even before covid were routinely exposed to all sorts of infectious diseases and had the added fun of things like back/joint issues due to the need to carry heavy backpacks and lifting/moving patients...(yes there are ways of lifting/carrying that reduce the risks but at best they only reduce the risks, and there are times when they're not able to be used, then there is things like the need to run up/down multiple flights of stairs with heavy packs which does wonders for your knees regardless of how you "lift").

My alternative?

You don't let someone who has covid in a shared workspace, or if you do they wear a property fitted mask and the disciplinary action comes in if they remove it, other options include looking at the reasons why people are off ill not just a blanket "oh you've been off 3 times for a couple of days this last year,. here's your warning".

As I say it's always been an utterly stupid policy* that penalises those who can't avoid exposure to diseases and the "shopfloor" staff who have to deal with the general public, and anyone who has a weaker immune system who can't just shrug off a infection, more sensible and actually well thought out policies include things like telling staff that if they've got a bad cold or whatever they shouldn't come into the office to share the love (I'm fairly sure a lot of people on here will know someone who "never missed a day" going into the office whilst coughing and spluttering followed by half the office having the cold the next week).



*IIRC it's roots were in an American company for it's office workers, it's since been applied all over the world to pretty much every job type including those where you're inevitably going to hit that limit more and more often as you get older.

 

[MatteH Oxford]

I dont know why this has to keep being explained to people. You wear a mask mainly to protect others from you spreading the virus, it also stop you getting a full face full of others.

People not wearing masks in certain enviroments is just selfishness but that does seem to be the type of country we increasingly live in now.

No evidence masks stop you from getting a virus & give a false sense of security(via the BBC)

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