COVID-19 (Coronavirus) discussion

Tephnos said:
Your 'FACTS' are not as clever as you like to think they are.

  1. No ****, we've not had a mass immunisation programme that targeted the entire population in a very long time, and adults typically have more adverse reactions to shots (such as fevers) compared to children. It's not the problem you pretend it is. Those self reported databases you keep linking to encourage you to submit any and ALL reactions to vaccines, which is obviously going to include very minor things such as temporary fevers. Big whoop.
  2. Irrelevant blanket statement. They reduce the chance of transmission by a) both preventing infection entirely in some (obviously less relevant with Omicron now) and b) shortening the amount of time you are ill/infectious for. They still help.
  3. They don't, but we know for a fact that they put a severe dent on how serious that illness becomes. To dispute otherwise makes you a fool.
Move on already. Your tripe is tiresome.
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We always seem to get these muppets popping up every few weeks/months
 
Uther said:
I always just assume it's the same person with many different accounts popping in for the lols occasionally. Best to ignore them and they soon get bored.
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He's been around the forum for many years I don't think there's anything nefarious going on... But I haven't been an admin of this board for a long time!
 
Freefaller said:
Whilst I don't agree with Salami's point I think calling people fools or being rude to them is not particularly helpful or kind.
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I prefer sarcasm

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Oh it wasn't aimed at anyone. It was more of a general point, regardless I think this is a divisive topic and also something that people can take personally and sometimes it's hard to step back from the passion.

Whether it's salami, me, others I think it's best to either report the name calling as tit for tat just winds people up and instead of helping people to open their minds it just entrenches them further, and the thread turns toxic.

I mean I was guilty of being a bit like that in the previous thread, but fortunately there wasn't too much name calling and I broadened my outlook as a result.

Everyone has passionate perspectives and even if you feel particularly irritated by someone it won't help soften the person's position if we lambast them or behave in a derogatory way.

I think @SexyGreyFox approach of sarcasm is probably fair though! :D
 
Freefaller said:
Oh it wasn't aimed at anyone. It was more of a general point, regardless I think this is a divisive topic and also something that people can take personally and sometimes it's hard to step back from the passion.

Whether it's salami, me, others I think it's best to either report the name calling as tit for tat just winds people up and instead of helping people to open their minds it just entrenches them further, and the thread turns toxic.

I mean I was guilty of being a bit like that in the previous thread, but fortunately there wasn't too much name calling and I broadened my outlook as a result.

Everyone has passionate perspectives and even if you feel particularly irritated by someone it won't help soften the person's position if we lambast them or behave in a derogatory way.

I think @SexyGreyFox approach of sarcasm is probably fair though! :D
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The difference between you and him is you actually respond to valid counterpoints. He doesn't. He's deluded and came in as the 'healthy sceptic' whose mask fell off in fairly short order.

Got no time for that tripe.
 
Is Salami Mark Steyn?

www.theguardian.com

GB News faces Ofcom investigation over host’s Covid booster claims

Mark Steyn’s misleading claim that jab was killing Britons was based on ‘inaccurate reading’ of report, says Full Fact
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GB News is being investigated by the media regulator Ofcom after one of its hosts made misleading claims about the side-effects of Covid booster vaccines.

The presenter Mark Steyn wrongly alleged that having the extra dose was killing Britons and alleged there was a media silence on the issue.


The independent factchecking website Full Fact said his claim, made in a broadcast on 21 April, was based “on an inaccurate reading of a vaccine surveillance report, which specifically includes a caveat warning that the data can’t be used to determine vaccine effectiveness”.

They said this data source had repeatedly been used to draw the wrong conclusions by opponents of vaccination programmes.
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Even I misread data even though I was working and still working with Covid cases and somebody had to put me right on here.
I'd totally read figures wrong on a Government data sheet which made something look really bad until somebody who knew what they were reading put me right.
 
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