COVID-19 (Coronavirus) discussion

[Uther]

I understand, but maybe they should be asking what the government are doing about it and why they are trying to make us all pretend it's over when it's not. What are we paying them for (they keep giving themselves nice pay increases)?

Not that I'm a fan of the government, but there HAS to be a level of personal reponsibility. Unfortunately far too many people are not the brightest.
It won't be long before there's an idiot in here demanding the thread is closed / it's over / get a life / derp because they just don't want to have to deal with it.

 

[Feek]

It won't be long before there's an idiot in here demanding the thread is closed / it's over / get a life / derp because they just don't want to have to deal with it.

There already have been people questioning why this thread exists.

 

[Angilion]

You are entitled to ask for that period to be treated as sick and retain the holiday entitlement if you wish.



And it sounds like you could do with a period of recuperation, still not an ideal use of holiday but better than having none at all.

I declined that option. Work has been good to me, so I'll give it that week as a freebie. Also, the person who handles the rotas has more than enough work trying to get everything to fit so I chose not to add more. In any case, I'm on an old contract so I get 7 weeks paid holiday per year. It's not a significant issue to lose one of those weeks to being ill while on holiday. I think it's right that it should be an option, but I'm OK with declining the option at this time.

I think people don't like being reminded that covid is still there, and seeing a mask makes them remember that it is, and it's not going anywhere.

I think many people are stupid and somewhat sociopathic. This pandemic has seriously downgraded my view of humanity as a whole. I really wouldn't have expected there to be anyone still routinely and deliberately coughing without even trying to block it, but I encounter that daily. No mentally competent adult can be ignorant of what coughing is and that it should be blocked, so they're deliberately trying to spread disease. Either they don't care about other people and lack the ability to understand that it will make things worse for them too or they gain some kind of pleasure from spreading disease. No way is it ignorance. It would have been difficult for a mentally competent adult to have been ignorant about that before the covid pandemic (it's been known for at least millennia and common knowledge in modern times - anyone else remember the "coughs and sneezes spread diseases" campaign?) but it's absolutely impossible now.

 

[steve_c]

There already have been people questioning why this thread exists.

He knows that. It was a poorly veiled dig at people like me questioning why the thread exists. I’m sure he even responded to the point a few pages back so it’s just an easy way for him to indirectly call someone an idiot.

It’s an emotionally charged, divisive subject, unfortunately. Just because I question the point of the thread doesn’t mean I’m in denial about the illness or taking measures to prevent it.

If anything, the majority in this thread are the ones that don’t want to “deal with it” and are constantly looking to blame the government or other groups of people for the current situation which, in my opinion, is completely unavoidable with the way our society exists and operates.

Anyway I’ll bow out of the thread as it’s understandably odd posting here with my viewpoint. I’ll poke my head back in when there’s some (hopefully good) developments. Hope you all stay healthy

 

[inogen]

Just because I question the point of the thread doesn’t mean I’m in denial about the illness or taking measures to prevent it.

understandably odd posting here with my viewpoint.

Errrr.... yep.

It's a discussion forum. Questioning the point of a discussion of something whilst also engaging in your own behaviour modification because of it is ermm... odd.

I suppose wishing you don't have to discuss it would help you ignore it and get "back to normal"?

 

[inogen]

I think many people are stupid and somewhat sociopathic. This pandemic has seriously downgraded my view of humanity as a whole. I really wouldn't have expected there to be anyone still routinely and deliberately coughing without even trying to block it, but I encounter that daily. No mentally competent adult can be ignorant of what coughing is and that it should be blocked, so they're deliberately trying to spread disease. Either they don't care about other people and lack the ability to understand that it will make things worse for them too or they gain some kind of pleasure from spreading disease. No way is it ignorance. It would have been difficult for a mentally competent adult to have been ignorant about that before the covid pandemic (it's been known for at least millennia and common knowledge in modern times - anyone else remember the "coughs and sneezes spread diseases" campaign?) but it's absolutely impossible now.

Yeah. It's hard to reconcile people's behaviour with what should be expected of them as responsible and thoughtful people. Most people it seems are superficial ****s.

 

[Dyson]

Went shopping in Bath today, and I was genuinely surprised to see only about 4 other people wearing masks in around 4 hours of walking round.

 

[steve_c]

Errrr.... yep.

It's a discussion forum. Questioning the point of a discussion of something whilst also engaging in your own behaviour modification because of it is ermm... odd.

I suppose wishing you don't have to discuss it would help you ignore it and get "back to normal"?

Certainly not. There's plenty of things going on in life that we don't discuss, isn't there?

There are no medical threads allowed on OCUK so why is this any different? Unfortunately, we are where we are. No matter how many people or groups you try to blame, Covid is now with us for good. Much like any other transmissible disease which we have learned to manage and don't constantly post about.

Most people are "back to normal" as much as possible. I can understand reasons people maybe like yourself wanting to isolate forever with zero human contact but how is that socially and economically feasible?

Went shopping in Bath today, and I was genuinely surprised to see only about 4 other people wearing masks in around 4 hours of walking round.

I mean really? You've seen probably 8,000 people going about their business and you're surprised that you and 3 other people were the only ones wearing masks?

What about vaccinations and previous infections? Maybe most of the people were completely no-risk or low-risk? Has common sense completely left the room?

 

[Goodie]

I don't get why people would ask for the thread to stop. If it doesn't interest you or has no bearing on what you're doing then ignore the thread. For the same reason I don't understand the gloating, denial posts. Click another thread.

 

[Diddums]

Yay, just tested positive. I've managed to swerve it since this all kicked off, I eased my guard a bit and now I've got it. Triple jabbed too.

Well, at least i can say I've participated now :/

 

[wire-screw]

I tested positive just over a week ago and started having symptoms about 10 days ago. Started off just a bad cold then I got the shortness of breath, fatigue and vague confusion - a little like being drunk. I'm still testing positive and suffering from fatigue. Getting it again really does worry me, I worry about the long term affects. I'm very fit and healthy and working hard to be fit into old age and I feel this could really set me back.

 

[ljt]

Covid is now with us for good. Much like any other transmissible disease which we have learned to manage

Trouble is, there isn't as far as I'm aware any other disease that infects millions of people in the UK alone,week in, week out, that is in constant circulation throughout the year and is as easily transmitted as covid.

Vaccines don't seem to be able to help with stopping transmission and they seem to have a relatively quick dwindling effect of keeping serious illness and thus death at bay. We can't keep giving millions of people vaccines every 3-6 months. There is already evidence that constant vaccines are having less and less of an effect and that variant specific ones aren't having the desired effect either.

This rush to get back to how we were before all this kicked off is ignorant at best. This virus has changed the world, whether we like it or not. We can try and bury heads in the sand and pretend it doesn't exist but eventually this virus will force everyone to live differently going forward or face the consequences which we are already starting to see now with disruption to "normal" life due to sheer numbers of people infected.

 

[Rroff]

Yay, just tested positive. I've managed to swerve it since this all kicked off, I eased my guard a bit and now I've got it. Triple jabbed too.

Well, at least i can say I've participated now :/

For some irony - none of the unvaccinated people at work seem to have had it yet and everyone off with it right now is supposedly triple jabbed... though I think a lot of that is those unvaccinated are still being cautious while those who are triple jabbed are like "right COVID is over".

 

[Diddums]

For some irony - none of the unvaccinated people at work seem to have had it yet and everyone off with it right now is supposedly triple jabbed... though I think a lot of that is those unvaccinated are still being cautious while those who are triple jabbed are like "right COVID is over".

Yep, I let my guard down slightly and got it, nobody to thank but myself unfortunately. A colleague just emailed that he's got it too, gonna be one hell of a crap week :/

 

[keyser van someone]

I went to barbers 4 weeks ago and was the only one wearing a mask still. Turned out the slight cough I had at the time was covid so I just saved everyone lives!! you're welcome

No mask when I went again yesterday though, pfft whats covid etc

 

[the wopster]

Trouble is, there isn't as far as I'm aware any other disease that infects millions of people in the UK alone,week in, week out, that is in constant circulation throughout the year and is as easily transmitted as covid.

Vaccines don't seem to be able to help with stopping transmission and they seem to have a relatively quick dwindling effect of keeping serious illness and thus death at bay. We can't keep giving millions of people vaccines every 3-6 months. There is already evidence that constant vaccines are having less and less of an effect and that variant specific ones aren't having the desired effect either.

This rush to get back to how we were before all this kicked off is ignorant at best. This virus has changed the world, whether we like it or not. We can try and bury heads in the sand and pretend it doesn't exist but eventually this virus will force everyone to live differently going forward or face the consequences which we are already starting to see now with disruption to "normal" life due to sheer numbers of people infected.

It just goes to show how ignorant people are to the bigger picture, we’re in a new world now and will never return to how everything was. if this is living with Covid then we are truly ******, massive constant Covid infections and hospitalisations throughout the year takes away staff and resources constantly, adding to the already massive backlog .

 

[malachi]

It just goes to show how ignorant people are to the bigger picture, we’re in a new world now and will never return to how everything was. if this is living with Covid then we are truly ******, massive constant Covid infections and hospitalisations throughout the year takes away staff and resources constantly, adding to the already massive backlog .

Well we don't have a choice and we need to stop controlling everything which is actually out of our power. Life goes on, so will covid.

 

[Tephnos]

Looks like the UK has bred a new XE variant, which may be a further 10% more transmissible than Omicron.

The virus won't stop until we all have it permanently.

 

[Puzzled]

Looks like the UK has bred a new XE variant, which may be a further 10% more transmissible than Omicron.

The virus won't stop until we all have it permanently.

Is this new variant sponsored by Jaguar?

 

[Rroff]

Well we don't have a choice and we need to stop controlling everything which is actually out of our power. Life goes on, so will covid.

Not like it is a binary situation - there are things we can do to improve the situation while largely continuing to live normally and doing so also reduces the risks of things developing so we need to bring back more significant, impactful on our lives, measures.