COVID-19 (Coronavirus) discussion

Well, you learn something new every day.

"However, on balance they said it was likely persistent symptoms were more common for Covid than flu."
 
RxR said:
Nobody is talking about "long flu, Bro".

Fwiw - the ability to deal.with complexity improves up to about age 35.
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The ability to deal with what?

As for the notorious poster, just laugh react and move on. Stop getting baited.
 
People still defending lockdowns? Haha

Call it hindsight, call it at the time cynicism but the idea lockdowns did anything meaningful is a joke. Everyone ended up catching covid anyway (even with the vaccine :D ) All it did was confirm to governments around the world that populations really are easily tamed when you get the herd frightened.

The irony is that it's lead to such division and hate in society (let's not forget some of the posts even in this thread wishing the worst on people!) over something with a low mortality rate, that we will be paying for social trust erosion for decades. Not to mention rise of vaccine scepticism across the board which is super sad to see with all the amazing progress done over the 20th century.

I haven't forgiven the mouth breathers (huh dur the time was great because I'm a basement dwelling nerd that doesn't have a life) for stealing the years of children, teenagers, university students, young professionals all in the "name" of protecting society.....namely their own cowardice. They are beyond pathetic in every sense of the word.

I'm just so glad to have been living in Switzerland where life wasn't so curtailed at all and where I wasn't afraid to travel. But so many people have had years taken from them and now it's just a question of "move on, sorry lol".
 
Word salad with a frothy jus.

What’s your point Dr Epidemiology?

I’m sorry your pub visits were curtailed.

”Herd”, liberal use of generalisations, “dur”, “basement dwelling nerds”. Almost sounds like a conspiracy dictionary.

Oh and nobody is looking for your “forgiveness”. If it’s such a problem, go rant on a swiss forum about it.
 
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CapitalOne said:
Word salad with a frothy jus.

What’s your point Dr Epidemiology?

I’m sorry your pub visits were curtailed.

”Herd”, liberal use of generalisations, “dur”, “basement dwelling nerds”. Almost sounds like a conspiracy dictionary.

Oh and nobody is looking for your “forgiveness”. If it’s such a problem, go rant on a swiss forum about it.
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What conspiracy? Just stupid people easily manipulated. Masks rubbish one second, the next they were second coming of God. Stock piling of toilet paper, endless printed money. Omicron "wave" to be quickly forgotten when the ukraine conflict rolled around. Vaccines stop to vaccine doing something. Hospital ships and tents....never used. Dancing nurses with abandoned cancer patients.

It was moronic and served the interest of the few. There is no conspiracy just the sad realisation there are a lot of morons in the world.

And no it wasn't just about me going to the pub, it was everyone who didn't get the chance of live a full life. I know a family friends child abroad who basically had no university life. Just a couple years couped up watching zoom Their life was put on hold even though they posed 0% risk. There were a lot of affected groups, but presuming you're in the group of "already lived my life had my fun, actually this suits me quite nicely" so lack the imagination or empathy.

And I'm glad you're not looking for forgiveness, wasn't really the point of my post. And I suppose it would suit you better just to have the same people saying the same thing with no discussion or reasonableness....would make you feel like the past few years! :D

The point of my post is that I could understand that people were hoodwinked into doing what they thought was the right thing, but to be doubling down even now (!!) and still defending what were insane times is just bizarre, illogical and frankly a bit frightening.
 
Orangeade said:
What conspiracy? Just stupid people easily manipulated. etcetera
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You talked about division being an outcome yet that’s your opener.

My son did 2 years at uni whilst all this was going on so I have personal experience.

I do not understand the anger. We rationalised and got on with it.

Nobody on the planet, bar utter nutters were saying the things you are saying back in 2020. Sorry to be the one to tell you it’s not over either.

I don’t hold that against you, or people with those views either. It’s the personal exceptionalism that you have studied the disease, the response and those who complied without complaining and you being such a special, insightful genius can without hesitation or balance say what you said convinced you are correct.

I’m more of a ”wait and see, have a think about it” type.
 
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n111ck said:
Its great that you are still supporting Boris, Matt and co and their policy decisions all this time later but locking down the whole country, trashing the economy, massively increasing wait lists, ruining kids education etc is not something that history will look back on favourably.

The focus should be on the vulnerable and not projecting minority scenarios on the whole population.
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Plus affected millions of people's MH.

Some people haven't gone back to pre covid days re socialising. My mum has about three friends who have not been out to socialise since the lockdowns as they have lost confidence.
 
Wish people stop putting money, lottery tickets, coupons etc in their mouths. It's a disgusting habit before covid and still is and will be forever more, disgusting.

We have the right to refuse these. If the customers kick off and demand a manager, the managers will back us up and explain the reasons.

During the compulsory mask wearing days, saw customers lower their masks to hold the money etc in their mouths then denied they did it. A customer had a massive shouting match at me. Manager viewed CCTV and took screenshots of customer with mask down and notes in mouth - took photos of these on his phone then showed the photos of this to the customer. He still denied it and was subsequently banned from the store.
 
CapitalOne said:
You talked about division being an outcome yet that’s your opener.

My son did 2 years at uni whilst all this was going on so I have personal experience.

I do not understand the anger. We rationalised and got on with it.

Nobody on the planet, bar utter nutters were saying the things you are saying back in 2020. Sorry to be the one to tell you it’s not over either.

I don’t hold that against you, or people with those views either. It’s the personal exceptionalism that you have studied the disease, the response and those who complied without complaining and you being such a special, insightful genius can without hesitation or balance say what you said convinced you are correct.

I’m more of a ”wait and see, have a think about it” type.
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Yes, I am divided on the topic now, hardly a surprise!? All the talks of banning travel, restrictions on freedom, talking about job losses, practically forcing medical procedures on people to retain moment. Oh it's fine now that people lost interest in COVID when the next big topic came along and we didn't need QR codes like animals to enter places?

And so yes your son had to put up with something that you didn't have to. Very kind of you to "rationalise" it on his behalf.

I didn't say 2020 exclusively, what about 2021 and 2022? It didn't take long before it became clear about affected groups. But instead of making rational choices, governments were content with the heavy hand rather than a guided approach.....once they saw the general populace was willing to forsake freedom. Had idiots like Boris Johnson on your side joking and partying in private laughing at people, but happy to stick rules on them because thats what people wanted.

And I have no issue with wait and see but I do when its at the expense of everyone else. I'm taking my stance from the viewpoint of someone who ignored every rule and had a thoroughly good time doing so with a lot of travel and fun times. So I'm not bitter on behalf of my life but seeing the impacts on people as a whole.

Guess I'm not the wait around and waste peoples lives type of person. I'm not convinced by much, but I certainly would hope if I was in a position of power that I would consider beyond the immediate and look at future ramifications.
 
Orangeade said:
People still defending lockdowns? Haha

Call it hindsight, call it at the time cynicism but the idea lockdowns did anything meaningful is a joke. Everyone ended up catching covid anyway (even with the vaccine :D ) All it did was confirm to governments around the world that populations really are easily tamed when you get the herd frightened.

The irony is that it's lead to such division and hate in society (let's not forget some of the posts even in this thread wishing the worst on people!) over something with a low mortality rate, that we will be paying for social trust erosion for decades. Not to mention rise of vaccine scepticism across the board which is super sad to see with all the amazing progress done over the 20th century.

I haven't forgiven the mouth breathers (huh dur the time was great because I'm a basement dwelling nerd that doesn't have a life) for stealing the years of children, teenagers, university students, young professionals all in the "name" of protecting society.....namely their own cowardice. They are beyond pathetic in every sense of the word.

I'm just so glad to have been living in Switzerland where life wasn't so curtailed at all and where I wasn't afraid to travel. But so many people have had years taken from them and now it's just a question of "move on, sorry lol".
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The media made covid look like we are all going to get it like a child losing their baby teeth. Hence why people selfishly emptied the shelves with food, toiletries and cleaning products. Plus media showing photos of empty shelves prolonged this.
 
cheesefest said:
Wish people stop putting money, lottery tickets, coupons etc in their mouths. It's a disgusting habit before covid and still is and will be forever more, disgusting.

We have the right to refuse these. If the customers kick off and demand a manager, the managers will back us up and explain the reasons.

During the compulsory mask wearing days, saw customers lower their masks to hold the money etc in their mouths then denied they did it. A customer had a massive shouting match at me. Manager viewed CCTV and took screenshots of customer with mask down and notes in mouth - took photos of these on his phone then showed the photos of this to the customer. He still denied it and was subsequently banned from the store.
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Who tf puts money in their mouth??!!
 
Orangeade said:
Guess I'm not the wait around and waste peoples lives type of person. I'm not convinced by much, but I certainly would hope if I was in a position of power that I would consider beyond the immediate and look at future ramifications.
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We were dealing with a novel virus no one knew how it would pan out but early indicators were pessimistic - this seems to have been conveniently forgotten by a lot of people... your approach under that situation is very misguided even though I don't expect you to understand that.

Equally misguided was the reluctance to carry out high quality studies so as to understand what we were dealing with - well into 2021 we were still reacting to early information despite the situation having moved on and/or there being a better understanding by those actually paying attention. As I've mentioned the variant responsible for a lot of early scenes of severe illness was not the one which became dominant, becoming virtually extinct by the end of 2020.

In terms of future ramifications it was very much a lose lose situation, you are applying hindsight now.
 
C Kent said:
I see folks are still completely unable to have an adult discussion about covid, lockdowns and everything associated with it. Shame.
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Or Musk / "X", Donald Trump, Russia's special operation, mass global movements of people, and umpteen other things are triggers of unpleasant disagreements, ridicule, or are now even banned from discussion altogether.
 
Chris Wilson said:
Or Musk / "X", Donald Trump, Russia's special operation, mass global movements of people, and umpteen other things are triggers of unpleasant disagreements, ridicule, or are now even banned from discussion altogether.
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Although they aren't topics where a more nuanced opinion gets allowed for much, most of the time what you are referring to are child like differing views not material for an adult discussion.
 
C Kent said:
I see folks are still completely unable to have an adult discussion about covid, lockdowns and everything associated with it. Shame.
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Not just covid, pretty much anything. People have their entrenched opinions and they wont be swayed.
 
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